Monthly Meeting Location/VOTE.......

[JoeT]

Part of a good club, no matter what type of club it is should be the dedication of the members, thats what makes a club. Also I dont neccesarily have to drive the Mustang to these meetings and since Im coming from 12th street and Bell I could pick up people along the way at no charge to you! I have a Hummer H3 so its easily room for 3 more people if gas is a concern to members. 20 miles to the gallon if you can believe that.

I come to the meetings because I enjoy the people not because its an incovenience to me. Come on people rethink your reason for being a Copperstate Club member. Its about committment. If this was a car show you all wouldnt be concerned about the drive, it is after all only once a month. You have a shot at winning money, which is better than an award at a car show, and you get to munch for free, so its not as if your going to the dentist for root canal!

[67 'Stang Lover]

Good one. LOL. We are not obligated to the Church at all for the Monthly meetings. We don't have a contract that I know of. You are right the Meetings are only once a month and if I can afford to buy my 'GT' then I should be able to afford the gas to put in it. Besides, I have to run Super Unleaded since I re-programmed my ECU with a DiabloSport Predator Controller. So mine is worse than most but that was my doing. LOL. Thanks Chris and if you want to go to the Meeting and carpool together I will drive. Anyone else up for that let me know and we can meet somewhere.

[67 'Stang Lover]

Part of a good club, no matter what type of club it is should be the dedication of the members, thats what makes a club. Also I dont neccesarily have to drive the Mustang to these meetings and since Im coming from 12th street and Bell I could pick up people along the way at no charge to you! I have a Hummer H3 so its easily room for 3 more people if gas is a concern to members. 20 miles to the gallon if you can believe that.

I come to the meetings because I enjoy the people not because its an incovenience to me. Come on people rethink your reason for being a Copperstate Club member. Its about committment. If this was a car show you all wouldnt be concerned about the drive, it is after all only once a month. You have a shot at winning money, which is better than an award at a car show, and you get to munch for free, so its not as if your going to the dentist for root canal!

Thanks Joe, your are right and we will only have to worry about the Meetings 10 times a year. Not bad. Also, you brought up a good point in that you can drive other vehicles to the meetings so I might drive the Fusion for me. I would be glad to pick people up and carpool as well. I am just trying to help and this discussion is making it easier for all. All of these inputs are valuable and I am glad we are going to fix this problem. That is what this Club is for like you stated. Who knows, maybe the Monthly meeting will be like a mini-show at Berge and Stage 3. Wherever and whenever we will have fun. I hope I don't need any root canal any time soon. LOL...............

[Martimus]

Again my take on this issue of moving the meetings to Berge Ford would be great for the CMC club for all members. It would give the car owners a feeling of vip status and have special privileges through Berge Ford.
Also the location now in Phoenix is not centrally located especially for the people who do live in the east side or anywhere far from Phoenix for that matter.
The location at the Church in Phoenix is a poor location and i mean that literally. I feel very uncomfortable bringing my fancy Mustang to that location because of the poverty stricken area it's in.
We also should have the meetings at berge Ford because they sponsor us and i feel like we are slapping Berge Ford in the face because we have done nothing to hold our meetings there, especially when we are wanted to be there and have our meetings.
This club needs changes just like our government and now is the time for change.

1rad67

I'm sorry but I have to take issue with your comments. That is by no means a poverty stricken area... not even close! I'm in that area on an almost daily basis with my $30+ thousand dollar Mustang Bullitt and I've yet to have it vandalized (knock on wood!!). To be honest I've had more cars vandalized in Mesa than in central Phoenix.

The problem with using Berge as a location, and I say this as an east side resident, is that it WILL be a logistical challenge for some CMC members. For members living in Surprise thats a really long drive. Would you regularly go to meetings if they were held in Avondale? or Cave Creek? or Buckeye?

One option to definitely consider might be to alternate between west side and east side venues. But what about those who live in the far North and far South ends of town? So maybe you compromise... maybe you hold meetings at the points of the compass (north one month, south the next, west the next, and east the next) or maybe you look for a central venue.

[JoeT]

Well with it a 12-4 vote at this point its looking like Berge is in the future. Doesnt matter to me, Ill make the meetings I can, and miss the ones I cant make. It's always going to be an issue. In fact I just posted to one topic and the guy I was talking with was in the UK so its obvious we cant make it convenient for him. I think the hot weather makes it more of a drag for everyone, but if it was 70 in Phoenix driving to Berge doesnt seem that bad. the heat makes the drive less appealing.

[vin man]

Well with it a 12-4 vote at this point its looking like Berge is in the future. Doesnt matter to me, Ill make the meetings I can, and miss the ones I cant make. It's always going to be an issue. In fact I just posted to one topic and the guy I was talking with was in the UK so its obvious we cant make it convenient for him. I think the hot weather makes it more of a drag for everyone, but if it was 70 in Phoenix driving to Berge doesnt seem that bad. the heat makes the drive less appealing.

I'm hopeful that a decsion will not be based on 16 votes. Especially since CMC membership isn't even a requirement to be on this forum. While I"m a dues paying member, I'm not an active member, so my vote shouldn't really count either.

Let those that want to attend the meetings decide. Do a mail in ballot, or send a postcard to the members with a link to an online poll. Then, only those that really care will vote.

[Martimus]

Well with it a 12-4 vote at this point its looking like Berge is in the future. Doesnt matter to me, Ill make the meetings I can, and miss the ones I cant make. It's always going to be an issue. In fact I just posted to one topic and the guy I was talking with was in the UK so its obvious we cant make it convenient for him. I think the hot weather makes it more of a drag for everyone, but if it was 70 in Phoenix driving to Berge doesnt seem that bad. the heat makes the drive less appealing.

Maybe... but somehow I suspect 16 isn't a statistically significant representatiion of the CMC membership as a whole.

[RockysMom]

Yes I personally will drive to Berge once I live in Surprise, Its dedication to the club, I love the club and Yes totally understand all the opinions. This was in the last newsletter for all to see. So we will possibly have a vote at the next meeting regarding this. No one is to get upset over this as this is thrown out there to see if it will fly or not. 16 votes is not going to make it official. So please do not feel like this forum is the end. There are close to 400 members in the club and it will certainly be looked upon. Not all the members are coming into this forum, so lets not make it a city bashing thread, we will discuss it. Stage 3 would be nice idea also BUT where are we to sit once there, are they going to bring 200 chairs in thier store? These are all the things that will have to be looked at ok yall ?????

I'm sorry but I have to take issue with your comments. That is by no means a poverty stricken area... not even close! I'm in that area on an almost daily basis with my $30+ thousand dollar Mustang Bullitt and I've yet to have it vandalized (knock on wood!!). To be honest I've had more cars vandalized in Mesa than in central Phoenix.

The problem with using Berge as a location, and I say this as an east side resident, is that it WILL be a logistical challenge for some CMC members. For members living in Surprise thats a really long drive. Would you regularly go to meetings if they were held in Avondale? or Cave Creek? or Buckeye?

One option to definitely consider might be to alternate between west side and east side venues. But what about those who live in the far North and far South ends of town? So maybe you compromise... maybe you hold meetings at the points of the compass (north one month, south the next, west the next, and east the next) or maybe you look for a central venue.

[RockysMom]

Dues paying members have a voice, Just because your not active dont meen we dont hear or listen hun. You are just a part of this club as I am, I choose to be active, Not being active dont make you less of a member. So There

I'm hopeful that a decsion will not be based on 16 votes. Especially since CMC membership isn't even a requirement to be on this forum. While I"m a dues paying member, I'm not an active member, so my vote shouldn't really count either.

Let those that want to attend the meetings decide. Do a mail in ballot, or send a postcard to the members with a link to an online poll. Then, only those that really care will vote.

[Rev'n Kevin]

I've given this some more thought and here is what I came up with.

We have 12 meetings a year.

2 of them already have a location other than the church.

That leaves 10

6 meeting per year SHOULD be held at Berge.

That leaves 4

If stage 3 would host those 4, I think this would be an excellent solution.

If not, I could host 1 at the club house here in the gated community where I live in Peoria.

And I'm sure we could come up with a location for the other 3, maybe in some cool locations, that some of you could think of.

And a personal note to 67 'Stang Lover who wrote:

I just posted my concerns and that is why I started this new thread. I am glad I did. Don't shoot the messenger please.

Ok, I promise I won't shoot you