Monthly Meeting Location/VOTE.......

[JoeT]

Frankly its only a pain for the summer months. I live at 12th Street and Bell in Phoenix and its definitely a drive to Berge. But only for 4 months out of the year when its roasting, otherwise I think the drive would be fun. Also I am fairly new to the club but so far Ive seen alot of the members driving from Mesa etc to the Church, has to have been a drive for them, so its probably nice for us to give them a break, as well as making an appearance to help the club sponsor. However in August I'll probably pass on the meeting depending on when the move is made. Stage 3 isnt really any closer for me either, but whatever is decided thats the way it is.

I do believe though that alot of the west siders will bail. I'll be on the side of the majority since we need members there to conduct a meeting.

Just a thought, maybe we could use North mountain park (ice cream social location) for some of the meeting in the fall.

Also I appreciate the watchdog with the .45

Curious though if the church has had anymore issues with the gas thief.

71 miles round trip here, 40 minutes 1 way.

[Rev'n Kevin]

I'm sorry man that isn't what I got out of this. I would have praised you for doing it and been thankfull that somebody would take the time to protect my baby. I think it is more that we are just a little sad that we pay for a place, and have to have somebody to protect our cars, the very reason we are meeting. The fact that we can have the meeting for free and safely is the point I got out of this.

Reread what Steve said "I don't think that will stop the chance of something happening to our cars.", that's what got me. Nothing happened last month, did it? I found that a little insultive.

Anyway, the bottom line for me is, yeah, we can save a grand a year by moving it to Berge, ya, I'm all for that. But, Berge is nearly a hundred miles round trip for me, think gas prices, and do the math. That is why I said I would not be able to attend meetings, if held at Berge. So I have mixed feelings on this, on the one hand, the benefit to the club and on the other seeing the club become more unaccessible to me personally. btw, the church is 18 miles one way from my house, so it's not like it's any closer for us westsiders than the eastsiders.

There has been some good suggestions on here for places other than Berge, and Rocky's Mom is moving to Surprise, so I guess we'll have at least two in the carpool (welcome to the hood RM)

[67 'Stang Lover]

Reread what Steve said "I don't think that will stop the chance of something happening to our cars.", that's what got me. Nothing happened last month, did it? I found that a little insultive.

Anyway, the bottom line for me is, yeah, we can save a grand a year by moving it to Berge, ya, I'm all for that. But, Berge is nearly a hundred miles round trip for me, think gas prices, and do the math. That is why I said I would not be able to attend meetings, if held at Berge. So I have mixed feelings on this, on the one hand, the benefit to the club and on the other seeing the club become more unaccessible to me personally. btw, the church is 18 miles one way from my house, so it's not like it's any closer for us westsiders than the eastsiders.

There has been some good suggestions on here for places other than Berge, and Rocky's Mom is moving to Surprise, so I guess we'll have at least two in the carpool (welcome to the hood RM)

First of all, I never intended to insult you. I was just stating my feeling on that subject and since I wasn't there last month I didn't know what you did as far as Security. More power to you and good job. That was probably the 1st time that parking lot had real Security. I am sorry you were insulted but that was not my intention.
BTW, I am happy that we got this out in the open and are discussing it. I think the alternating between the East and West side is great as well as having it at different locations. That way we would be including all member's since the Valley is so spread out now. I think the Berge and Stage 3 idea would be great. I will be at the next Monthly Meeting for sure so we can discuss this in front of everybody as well as the board.
Thanks again- Rev'n Kevin

[JoeT]

I think a discussion about this should require as many members as possible to show for this discussion, well at least where work doesnt get in the way. Honey dew lists dont count.

[67 'Stang Lover]

Ok Jumping in here, Hi Guys and gals, I am a board member for CMC, The whole reason for voting on moving it was for security (and to save the money), it becomes a no brainer when the pastor of the church comes to us and says, "You all better watch your cars cause we had a bunch of vehicles (during service) get the gas stolen out of them", In Broad daylight hmmm My vote is for Berge OUR FABULOUS SPONSOR.

I will be moving to Surprise around December. So look at my drive yall, Im dedicated to this club and all it stands for. Its once a month event, and two of them are not even at the church, so you will have to drive 10 times to Mesa in a year hmm, not like you will be driving out there every weekend. Its a nice Sunday cruise for everyone's babies. Plus, there is also Car pooling hmmmmmm. Who wouldnt want to pony up with any one of you, I would love to drive in any one of your fabulous cars, And as far as making it worth the drive, who said we all cant go to lunch or something afterwards. So that is my 2 cents worth on this. This is a definate no brainer. Love you guys!!!

Trish, well said and thanks for your input. I hope we can come to a fair decision for all Member's. These are some great ideas and I know that when we all put our minds together we will fix this. I think the Security by Kevin is great and maybe this solved the vandalism issue but it wouldn't be fair to him if he had to do it all of the time. He is missing the Meeting so maybe we can rotate him as well. Just to give him a break. It is a shame we have to do that but a great job by Kevin. I will talk to you next Sunday before the Meeting.
Thanks again..........

[1rad67]

Again my take on this issue of moving the meetings to Berge Ford would be great for the CMC club for all members. It would give the car owners a feeling of vip status and have special privileges through Berge Ford.
Also the location now in Phoenix is not centrally located especially for the people who do live in the east side or anywhere far from Phoenix for that matter.
The location at the Church in Phoenix is a poor location and i mean that literally. I feel very uncomfortable bringing my fancy Mustang to that location because of the poverty stricken area it's in.
We also should have the meetings at berge Ford because they sponsor us and i feel like we are slapping Berge Ford in the face because we have done nothing to hold our meetings there, especially when we are wanted to be there and have our meetings.
This club needs changes just like our government and now is the time for change.

1rad67

[67 'Stang Lover]

Again my take on this issue of moving the meetings to Berge Ford would be great for the CMC club for all members. It would give the car owners a feeling of vip status and have special privileges through Berge Ford.
Also the location now in Phoenix is not centrally located especially for the people who do live in the east side or anywhere far from Phoenix for that matter.
The location at the Church in Phoenix is a poor location and i mean that literally. I feel very uncomfortable bringing my fancy Mustang to that location because of the poverty stricken area it's in.
We also should have the meetings at berge Ford because they sponsor us and i feel like we are slapping Berge Ford in the face because we have done nothing to hold our meetings there, especially when we are wanted to be there and have our meetings.
This club needs changes just like our government and now is the time for change.

1rad67

Thanks for that and I agree with you. If I was sponsoring someone I would expect them to be at my location. I do think that we should alternate it atleast for the West Side Member's. It is only fair since Surprise, Goodyear and Glendale are such a far drive to Berge. This Club does need changes and we will make this Club the best around.

[JoeT]

I have to mention as was already stated this is not such a bad area, the neighborhood is not as bad as is being stated here. Keep in mind within 2.5 miles north of this church there are million dollar homes. This area is just an older area but by no means is it as if its skid row. If you drive thru the neighborhood youd see 90% of the homes are actually well kept, and are probably better built than most new homes today. I think theives actually targeted this church out of convenience and the quality of the vehicles in the lot, nice cars usually have full tanks of gas.

All Im saying is dont let this be the deciding factor in why the meetings are moved from the Church. If this was at central and southern then your talking about a bad neighborhood. But I was impressed with the first meeting I went here that the facilities were great for a club.

Im open to what everyone decides, but I know sometimes the meetings will suffer from incovenience of location no matter where it is.

The old adage is
"You can't please all the people all the time!"

With that said it saves the club 1000.00 so if this money could be used to help others less fortunate than us then Im all for it.

Also after thinking about this since last night, we really should move this to the club sponsor Berge Ford. Having 50 or more sweet Mustangs in the lot can only help the dealership as they have helped us by being our sponsor. Using Berge only for the Rock N Roll Pony show seems inconsiderate overall. If they are opening the doors for us free, that should be a major consideration.

[67 'Stang Lover]

I have to mention as was already stated this is not such a bad area, the neighborhood is not as bad as is being stated here. Keep in mind within 2.5 miles north of this church there are million dollar homes. This area is just an older area but by no means is it as if its skid row. If you drive thru the neighborhood youd see 90% of the homes are actually well kept, and are probably better built than most new homes today. I think theives actually targeted this church out of convenience and the quality of the vehicles in the lot, nice cars usually have full tanks of gas.

All Im saying is dont let this be the deciding factor in why the meetings are moved from the Church. If this was at central and southern then your talking about a bad neighborhood. But I was impressed with the first meeting I went here that the facilities were great for a club.

Im open to what everyone decides, but I know sometimes the meetings will suffer from incovenience of location no matter where it is.

The old adage is
"You can't please all the people all the time!"

With that said it saves the club 1000.00 so if this money could be used to help others better then Im all for it.

Well put and we will all figure this out. I hope we get a lot of Member's to attend the next Monthly Meeting so we can get a lot of input on this. I just want everyone to remember that this was not brought up by me in the first place. It was mentioned in this months Monthly Newsletter by the Board as something that needs to be discussed and solved. I just posted my concerns and that is why I started this new thread. I am glad I did. Don't shoot the messenger please. That is what this Forum is for and why we have it. I just wish Member's not take it like it is attacking something or someone. That is not the intention here. We are the best Club as well as one of the largest in the Country.

[1rad67]

Are we really stuck at the church in Phoenix? Is there another location in Phoenix or is the Church our only alternative? I would agree with alternating locations like one month at Berge and one month at the Phoenix location? If that is the choice I guess we have to stick with it, but keep in mind Berge Ford was generous enough to sponsor us and it so happens that Berge Ford in Mesa is the dealership who took us in under their wing, so to me it only makes sense to have the meetings changed to Berge Ford, besides if anyone can afford a GT Mustang or any Mustang, Shelby or whatever then usually those people can afford the gas to drive to a farhter location?...!!

1rad67