Monthly Meeting Location/VOTE.......

[ttocs]

could we split the meetings one month east side one month west side? Do we have a west side sponsor that would like to help? This is a big city and it is not getting smaller, and gas prices are not dropping so why not try to bring the meetings to the people?

[svtrichie]

I vote for Berge but not just being an east sider. Just a better place to be and they are our sponsor and it would save the club some money that we could put to something else. Also splitting it half west/half east isn't such a bad idea or even doing it at peoples homes.

[67 'Stang Lover]

Thanks for the last 5 posts. I agree with Vinnie on everything especially not trying to alienate the West Side Members. That was not my intention. All great ideas and I like the one for alternating between the East and West Sides every other month. Also, like the idea having it at Member's houses. That would be cool. All great ideas that we can all bring it up at the Club Meeting this month. Thanks guys.

[1rad67]

Again my take on this issue of moving the meetings to Berge Ford would be great for the CMC club for all members. It would give the car owners a feeling of vip status and have special privileges through Berge Ford.
Also the location now in Phoenix is not centrally located especially for the people who do live in the east side or anywhere far from Phoenix for that matter.
The location at the Church in Phoenix is a poor location and i mean that literally. I feel very uncomfortable bringing my fancy Mustang to that location because of the poverty stricken area it's in.
We also should have the meetings at berge Ford because they sponsor us and i feel like we are slapping Berge Ford in the face because we have done nothing to hold our meetings there, especially when we are wanted to be there and have our meetings.
This club needs changes just like our government and now is the time for change.

1rad67

[67 'Stang Lover]

Again my take on this issue of moving the meetings to Berge Ford would be great for the CMC club for all members. It would give the car owners a feeling of vip status and have special privileges through Berge Ford.
Also the location now in Phoenix is not centrally located especially for the people who do live in the east side or anywhere far from Phoenix for that matter.
The location at the Church in Phoenix is a poor location and i mean that literally. I feel very uncomfortable bringing my fancy Mustang to that location because of the poverty stricken area it's in.
We also should have the meetings at berge Ford because they sponsor us and i feel like we are slapping Berge Ford in the face because we have done nothing to hold our meetings there, especially when we are wanted to be there and have our meetings.
This club needs changes just like our government and now is the time for change.

1rad67

Thanks for that and I agree with you. If I was sponsoring someone I would expect them to be at my location. I do think that we should alternate it atleast for the West Side Member's. It is only fair since Surprise, Goodyear and Glendale are such a far drive to Berge. This Club does need changes and we will make this Club the best around.

[JoeT]

I have to mention as was already stated this is not such a bad area, the neighborhood is not as bad as is being stated here. Keep in mind within 2.5 miles north of this church there are million dollar homes. This area is just an older area but by no means is it as if its skid row. If you drive thru the neighborhood youd see 90% of the homes are actually well kept, and are probably better built than most new homes today. I think theives actually targeted this church out of convenience and the quality of the vehicles in the lot, nice cars usually have full tanks of gas.

All Im saying is dont let this be the deciding factor in why the meetings are moved from the Church. If this was at central and southern then your talking about a bad neighborhood. But I was impressed with the first meeting I went here that the facilities were great for a club.

Im open to what everyone decides, but I know sometimes the meetings will suffer from incovenience of location no matter where it is.

The old adage is
"You can't please all the people all the time!"

With that said it saves the club 1000.00 so if this money could be used to help others less fortunate than us then Im all for it.

Also after thinking about this since last night, we really should move this to the club sponsor Berge Ford. Having 50 or more sweet Mustangs in the lot can only help the dealership as they have helped us by being our sponsor. Using Berge only for the Rock N Roll Pony show seems inconsiderate overall. If they are opening the doors for us free, that should be a major consideration.

[67 'Stang Lover]

I have to mention as was already stated this is not such a bad area, the neighborhood is not as bad as is being stated here. Keep in mind within 2.5 miles north of this church there are million dollar homes. This area is just an older area but by no means is it as if its skid row. If you drive thru the neighborhood youd see 90% of the homes are actually well kept, and are probably better built than most new homes today. I think theives actually targeted this church out of convenience and the quality of the vehicles in the lot, nice cars usually have full tanks of gas.

All Im saying is dont let this be the deciding factor in why the meetings are moved from the Church. If this was at central and southern then your talking about a bad neighborhood. But I was impressed with the first meeting I went here that the facilities were great for a club.

Im open to what everyone decides, but I know sometimes the meetings will suffer from incovenience of location no matter where it is.

The old adage is
"You can't please all the people all the time!"

With that said it saves the club 1000.00 so if this money could be used to help others better then Im all for it.

Well put and we will all figure this out. I hope we get a lot of Member's to attend the next Monthly Meeting so we can get a lot of input on this. I just want everyone to remember that this was not brought up by me in the first place. It was mentioned in this months Monthly Newsletter by the Board as something that needs to be discussed and solved. I just posted my concerns and that is why I started this new thread. I am glad I did. Don't shoot the messenger please. That is what this Forum is for and why we have it. I just wish Member's not take it like it is attacking something or someone. That is not the intention here. We are the best Club as well as one of the largest in the Country.

[1rad67]

Are we really stuck at the church in Phoenix? Is there another location in Phoenix or is the Church our only alternative? I would agree with alternating locations like one month at Berge and one month at the Phoenix location? If that is the choice I guess we have to stick with it, but keep in mind Berge Ford was generous enough to sponsor us and it so happens that Berge Ford in Mesa is the dealership who took us in under their wing, so to me it only makes sense to have the meetings changed to Berge Ford, besides if anyone can afford a GT Mustang or any Mustang, Shelby or whatever then usually those people can afford the gas to drive to a farhter location?...!!

1rad67

[Martimus]

Again my take on this issue of moving the meetings to Berge Ford would be great for the CMC club for all members. It would give the car owners a feeling of vip status and have special privileges through Berge Ford.
Also the location now in Phoenix is not centrally located especially for the people who do live in the east side or anywhere far from Phoenix for that matter.
The location at the Church in Phoenix is a poor location and i mean that literally. I feel very uncomfortable bringing my fancy Mustang to that location because of the poverty stricken area it's in.
We also should have the meetings at berge Ford because they sponsor us and i feel like we are slapping Berge Ford in the face because we have done nothing to hold our meetings there, especially when we are wanted to be there and have our meetings.
This club needs changes just like our government and now is the time for change.

1rad67

I'm sorry but I have to take issue with your comments. That is by no means a poverty stricken area... not even close! I'm in that area on an almost daily basis with my $30+ thousand dollar Mustang Bullitt and I've yet to have it vandalized (knock on wood!!). To be honest I've had more cars vandalized in Mesa than in central Phoenix.

The problem with using Berge as a location, and I say this as an east side resident, is that it WILL be a logistical challenge for some CMC members. For members living in Surprise thats a really long drive. Would you regularly go to meetings if they were held in Avondale? or Cave Creek? or Buckeye?

One option to definitely consider might be to alternate between west side and east side venues. But what about those who live in the far North and far South ends of town? So maybe you compromise... maybe you hold meetings at the points of the compass (north one month, south the next, west the next, and east the next) or maybe you look for a central venue.

[RockysMom]

Yes I personally will drive to Berge once I live in Surprise, Its dedication to the club, I love the club and Yes totally understand all the opinions. This was in the last newsletter for all to see. So we will possibly have a vote at the next meeting regarding this. No one is to get upset over this as this is thrown out there to see if it will fly or not. 16 votes is not going to make it official. So please do not feel like this forum is the end. There are close to 400 members in the club and it will certainly be looked upon. Not all the members are coming into this forum, so lets not make it a city bashing thread, we will discuss it. Stage 3 would be nice idea also BUT where are we to sit once there, are they going to bring 200 chairs in thier store? These are all the things that will have to be looked at ok yall ?????

I'm sorry but I have to take issue with your comments. That is by no means a poverty stricken area... not even close! I'm in that area on an almost daily basis with my $30+ thousand dollar Mustang Bullitt and I've yet to have it vandalized (knock on wood!!). To be honest I've had more cars vandalized in Mesa than in central Phoenix.

The problem with using Berge as a location, and I say this as an east side resident, is that it WILL be a logistical challenge for some CMC members. For members living in Surprise thats a really long drive. Would you regularly go to meetings if they were held in Avondale? or Cave Creek? or Buckeye?

One option to definitely consider might be to alternate between west side and east side venues. But what about those who live in the far North and far South ends of town? So maybe you compromise... maybe you hold meetings at the points of the compass (north one month, south the next, west the next, and east the next) or maybe you look for a central venue.