Car Show Classes. . .?

[6Jeff6]

Jeff explain this. ..does the guy with the bone stock has to get over it if he loses to someone that has a few mods or like you said a valve cover? I lost (Copperstate) to a fairly bone stocker that should not have beaten me at any show. ..but I understand that a lot (probably most) mustang people respect the stockers, moreso than my car and I fully expected not to win anything. I got over it before I even enterted the show. . .I enterted for fun.

Point being the line has to be extended and not put down in cemement for stockers. Right?

Another question for all. Doesn't matter the year or class. . .lets say you get a 69 modefied. . .but there are only two. Is it okay to move them to the class before or after theirs to compete with other cars in their modified years? Assuming the trophies don't say the years and of course doing it before the show begins.

I'm just saying some people go to great lengths to stay stock then get punished by losing because their car isn't as shiny or blingy as the modified ones. People don't realize how hard it is to make cars #'s matching and all that.
I was just giving you info from the car shows I have gone too. I've seen #'s matching ss chevelles and gt 350's lose to a modified 69 camaro. The people with the real stock cars tend to never come back and the word spreads and you'll end up with modded cars only. But enough stock ones may not exist so this could be all mute. The last show I was at they tried to adjust as the cars came(put you in a class but move you around depending on who shows) but it was all screwed up and everyone complained then.

Basically I'm just rambling so all in all set a guidline and stick to it. You run it and ignore the whiners. You'll have some no matter what.

Yes combining classes is all you can do when enough don't show but talking with the people that fall into those classes(that enough don't show) might help you bring more of that category in.

Ahh hell have fun. That's what it's all about.

Jeff

[Blown66]

Jeff hopefully you didn't read me wrong, I was sincerely asking what you meant and not making any judgements. What you wrote (the second time) is very helpful because it explained the first to me.

JACO. . .thanks, that is very helpful.

[Martimus]

I suspect these words say it about as well as it can be said "Set a guideline and stick to it". Its impossible to make everybody happy with the rules so just draw a line in the sand and move from there.

The concern I have is defining stock as "that which rolled off the factory floor". For reasons of practicality we obviously have to exclude the following consumables from consideration as mod's: wiper blades, tires, shocks, lights. From this point I guess we need to make a decision of what constitutes modified.

But what about a Restomod? Lets say someone purchased a junkyard 1969 and restored it to MOSTLY stock using factory parts where available and aftermarket parts when no equivalent factory part was available, does this constitute stock or modified?

[Blown66]

Trouble maker! ;) I'll let you handle that question, very valid one.

But I thought JACO was very helpful with the "mod" scoring system. . .to determine if they go into a mod class.

[6Jeff6]

Jeff hopefully you didn't read me wrong, I was sincerely asking what you meant and not making any judgements. What you wrote (the second time) is very helpful because it explained the first to me.

JACO. . .thanks, that is very helpful.

No I understand what you meant. I have a tendency of not explaining things all the way through(atleast that's what my wife says).

I'd recommend just putting generic easy to fit in guidlines this year, then mingle and try to get a feel for what people want then adjust for the next one.

[AZSonicSnake]

Trouble maker! ;) I'll let you handle that question, very valid one.

But I thought JACO was very helpful with the "mod" scoring system. . .to determine if they go into a mod class.

i think the scoring system is awesome. i used it with one of the first copperstate shows, and honestly, felt like i was classed well when i got there. adds more points for certain mods. works out perfectly imo.

[Blown66]

Martin...(anyone else who cares to comment)...I think it should be considered to combine the 69-70 and 71-73 class (I think Copperstate did that for their last show) and add a specialty or whatever you want to call it class that would incoporatate Saleen, Roush ,Shelby?

Is there a problem with an old school shelby vs a newer model? I don't think that is that big of slight to the 69-73 class is it?