Under paid Pilots

[BurnTire]

Flight 1400 Crew endures engine fire, loss of hydraulics and electrics
on left side, executes flawless single-engine landing in St. Louis.

[santa_rosa_lt1]

whats the average pay for a pilot?and damn thats great they made it safely

[BurnTire]

whats the average pay for a pilot?and damn thats great they made it safely

About 50% less than it was prior to 9-11.

It is hard to give an average number because they Captain and First Officers rates a about at 35% difference. Also the rates vary based on years of service and aircraft flown

For the most part a first year guy makes a whopping $35,000 a year to fly a 10 million dollar airplane.

A 12 year senior First officer flying widebody international stuff maybe $120,000.

A 20 year senior international widebody captain maybe $180,000

A good guess for an average would be

$80,000 for First Officers
$140,000 for Captains

These are the same rates that pilots made 25 years ago.

Prior to 911 take those rates and multiply them by 2, except first year pay that has always stunk.

That is just the pay side. Our retirements got eliminated so that 1 to 2 million dollar check were supposed to get at the forced retirement age of 60 is now $0.

Ah the joys of Aviation.

[Jacostang]

Complete bummer, retirement all gone?????

Great job on the safe landing. No news on this one???

[BurnTire]

Complete bummer, retirement all gone?????

Great job on the safe landing. No news on this one???

Retirement is what I save in my 401K.

[HIKER]

Is that top pic shopped?

Here's what someone said...

"As a bus driver in the sky myself, I can say that is a photoshop, and here is why: First off, it looks like a photoshop, but you guys already saw that. Second, engines don't blow orange smoke ever, whether they are on fire or if the halon bottles go off. Third and most important, single engine approaches (landing with one engine) are accomplished at half flaps(my airplane uses flaps 20 instead of 45) because in the case of a go around, full flaps create too much drag for just one engine. That American MD-80 in the picture is landing at full flaps, hence a photoshop."

[BurnTire]

Looks like it is. Here is the original

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0765119/L/

They got the N number correct. LOL

As far as orange smoke? I never heard of that, but engine can blow orange flames.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http:...?v=uYNpB-8_BSo

YouTube - B747-200 Number1 Engine Failure

[HIKER]

Alright, after some quick research, here is the NTSB prelim:

NTSB Identification: CHI07MA310
Scheduled 14 CFR Part 121: Air Carrier operation of AMERICAN AIRLINES
Incident occurred Friday, September 28, 2007 in St. Louis, MO
Aircraft: McDonnell Douglas DC-9-82 (MD-82), registration: N454AA
Injuries: 143 Uninjured.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On September 28, 2007, at 1316 central daylight time, a McDonnell Douglas DC-9-82 (MD-82), N454AA, operated by American Airlines as flight 1400, executed an emergeny landing at Lambert-St Louis International Airport (STL), St. Louis, Missouri, after the flight crew received a left engine fire warning during departure climb from the airport. The airplane sustained minor damage. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and an instrument flight rules flight plan was filed for the 14 CFR Part 121 scheduled domestic flight. After landing, the 2 flight crew, 3 flight attendants, and 138 passengers deplaned via airstairs and no occupant injuries were reported. The intended destination of the flight was Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD), Chicago, Illinois.

Upon receiving the left engine fire warning during climb, the flight crew discharged the aircraft engine fire bottles into the affected engine. During the visual return and single-engine approach to the airport, the nose landing gear did not extend. The flight crew then extended the nose landing gear using the emergency landing gear extension procedure. The airplane returned and then landed on runway 30L (11,019 feet by 200 feet, grooved concrete) and was met by STL Airport Rescue and Fire Fighting Vehicles

While the "engine smoke" picture is fake, that airplane did experience an engine failure like shown by Hiker in the hanger photos. However, the "fake" picture shows the airplane landing on runway 12R where the actual emergency airplane landed on runway 30L. Busted by details! That exact airplane N454AA also had a nose gear problem in JFK in 2003: