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[Cammer]

I didn't know it was two years old, I just found it through google and started reading. Yeah I do own a Ford, I own an F-150 FX4 model that I've had for under a year. Performance wise, I've owned a Chevelle since '95. At the dealership I was liking the halo model out front, the Shelby. Last Mustang I sat in was a 2004 Saleen convert which a drinking buddy of mine paid twelve grand for wrecked, and then proceeded to completely bring back. I don't know all the details, but I'm sure the first fifth gen Camaro hooked up to a wrecker in this town, he'll have his hands on because he's into the collision business. I'm not a particular 'make' guy, so I don't waste my time pitting domestics against domestics like so many are prone to do, when the real threat to the industry doesn't even build a pony car.

Thank You. There are other sites for people like that.Who cares who is in the race. If you have a car that can stay with the pack let them race. They have to meet the same stanards as all the other manufactures, so as long as they do that, let them race

Well see that's my entire point, how have they met the same standards? And hey like I said, nobody can force you to read a particular topic. But if you disagree with it, engage in it, why waste your time with "I hate this topic and I hate reading it"

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Perhaps somebody out there who doesn't post thinks the same about one of your general chat topics. And what have they done exactly that you feel they should compete? Just because they assemble a commuter car here? You are aware that if it was a level playing field as far as the industry goes, they wouldn't even be assembling here, right? And if it was up to the imports, there would be no Mustangs, because as much as they want to move their product in this market, and represent themselves using a rwd, mid size, forward mounted small block out on a race track; they refuse to build it.

They're in nascar misrepresenting themselves in attempt to win over the full size truck market (the last hold the domestics really have in the market) They conquer that with the aid of nascar manipulation, and guess what? Ford will be forced to cut back even more, might even quit production on the model that you flock to this forum over. So you're all for that? It wouldn't bother you that almost 50 years of Mustang production could stop due to the fact that your average American really can't gauge what's going on thinking a Japanese company is even more 'American' than a legitimate American car company is?

They dump millions into PR campaigns in hopes off selling themselves off as American with an agenda to topple the legitimate American companies to send more profit back to Japan, bottom line. The reason they've been so successful at it, is because Americans allow themselves to not only be bought into it, but have your attitude and don't even like to discuss it. Instead of doing their own thinking, they settle on the information given to them by other clueless Americans who buy into the spin campaigns of 'imports are built here, and domestics are assembled in Mexico'

Pretty outrageous considering that no Americans should have to be convinced into vocally supporting their own auto industry. Especially when it was that industry that's pulled the country that you live in through two world wars, and numerous other conflicts, buildng everything from Airplanes, to the 'GM manufactured 'grease gun' during the Vietnam conflict. You know what, it does matter to you, only you wouldn't acknowledge it until it was way too late, and then sit around wondering how Japan has a monopoly on what is driven in this country.

[ChuckD]

Well see that's my entire point, how have they met the same standards?

Cause NASCAR said they did otherwise they wouldn't let them.

[Cammer]

Cause NASCAR said they did otherwise they wouldn't let them.

Correction, it's because they wrote a lot of zeros on the checks to Brian France who merely inherited his racing series. Sorry, but just because Brain France sells out on an American institution, I don't blindly follow along with it.

Just like I'd oppose transvestites in the miss America pageant (hey, they technically slapped on the necessary parts right?) still doesn't make them legitimate in my eyes (especially to be represented on that order). Unlike yourself, I don't think American institutions should have a price attached to them. Obviously you do.

[jtleng]

Thanks cammer, Is this better for you.