Fans Against Racing Toyotas T-Shirt!!!!

[Jacostang]

[BLK03SVT]

Does he have a website? I'll order one if he does.

[AZSonicSnake]

i would buy one, but unfortunatly my guys drives one now. but then again, i am a dale jarret fan, liked him when he drove chevys, fords, and now the unthinkable.

[BLK03SVT]

i would buy one, but unfortunately my guys drives one now. but then again, i am a dale jarret fan, liked him when he drove chevys, fords, and now the unthinkable.

Yea, I like DJ, but he sure pissed me off when he took the offer from Toyota. Yates offered him the same $ too.

It is nice to see 2 yates cars on the front row.

I've been a Mark Martin fan since I was 12, and now that bastard is driving a Chevy. What a disgrace.....I am officially a Carl Edwards fan now.

[AZSonicSnake]

can't argue that i was not wild about the choice, but he had to change something. its not like the past 3 years went all the great at ryr. i am glad to see the ryr cars up front. thats kick ass. hope they can stay there. i know that dj will be the anchor for the duration of the race, but its something i have grown use too in recent years. but atleast biffle (my other fav) is still driving a good ol ford.

[Jacostang]

I'll try to find out a web site, I'll contact him, show him the forum and maybe we'll send in an order fo a buch of shirts!! I want one for sure maybe two!! And Now since NASCAR did the right thing about provisional starts only 6 past champs prov. maybe it will backfire onthem big time!!!!

[ChuckD]

What rock did you crawl out from under? For 1 you make your 1st post talking crap. Second what Hiker said was the truth. Third the C.O.T. are all the same, stickers is what make them look diferent. Nascar isnt what it used to be. Have you ever seen a Cup engine? I would say no with your attitude. I could send you a Roush block and let you look it over and tell me whats different than a stock block. But you would say they are all the same.

[Cammer]

What rock did you crawl out from under? For 1 you make your 1st post talking crap. Second what Hiker said was the truth. Third the C.O.T. are all the same, stickers is what make them look diferent. Nascar isnt what it used to be. Have you ever seen a Cup engine? I would say no with your attitude. I could send you a Roush block and let you look it over and tell me whats different than a stock block. But you would say they are all the same.

The new FR9 engine, you've got one of those? Sure send me the one you're throwing out this week. The FR9 block is the first block like the R07, and the R6P8 that was specifically developed to compete on the ovals. And those are all in response to Toyota building a purpose built race engine due to the fact that they never had a production engine to base any engine off of in the first place. Which engine block has it been for the past three plus decades? The Cleveland block. Even the new blocks like the Dodge for example (8th gen of the poly head) are not anything radically different when it comes to tracing the bloodline back to the factory. If you think it's legitimate competition for Toyota to just swoop in with a bag full of money, and set about building a cam in block, domestic push-rod to further their image so they carve up the domestic market a little more (along with your own auto industry) all hope is lost for you.

Lets face it, the COT (nascar for that matter) is track muscle cars, hand fabricated ones, with dry sumps, 'hero parts' and tube chassis (which is a given unless you want to get killed) -- but that's fundamentally what it is. Until Japan builds anything halfway resembling a muscle car, they should refrain from imitating that layout on a race track (especially in this country). And anybody to support that is naive. We'll never see any German manufacturers in nascar, and the reason is; they have more pride in what they engineer to adopt another manufacturers complete layout just in order to be able to compete with that manufacturer. And of course, they're not on a hell bent quest to win over a particular market as is the case with Toyota and Japan. With everything from manipulating their own currency to taking advantage of the stupidity that goes on in Washington.

[ChuckD]

The windsor block is stronger than the cleveland. The cleveland heads flow alot better than the windsor. Thats why Gary Roughly makes the Track Boss intake and is used world wide on the circle track. I am seen some pretty impressive Supras. I would consider that a modern day muscle car. So are you saying AFR, Trick Flow, Dart, and other companies like that should just go out of business cause they used a basic design of a head and inproved on it? Or should Eaton, Whipple, or KB go out of business since they used the basic design of the Detroit superchargers? Or are you saying Burn Tire should burn in hell cause he put a Chevy tranny in a Ford car. Plus Nascar rules state that any car made in the USA can compete, hell even Honda could get int he game. So go back under your rock and talk to us when you have educated yourself and not just bs you read on a forum somewhere else. You sound a little disgruntled like you may have lost your job from an auto manufacturer.

[Cammer]

You can go hide under your rock 'Chuck'

Yeah, those Supras are the prime example of a muscle car now aren't they? Eaton, whipple, and Ken Bell are all American companies too though, aren't they now Chuck? Tell you what, I think TuRD should stop offering a Roots blower as it's top of the line bolt on for it's Japanese oriented performance catalogs. And what block has been in use by Yates, Roush, and the rest for decades in nascar again? That would be the Cleveland wouldn't it? Nobody's stated anything about the 'stronger' block (that's just Chuck's little spin on it all so he doesn't have to acknowledge the latter)

Maybe you should go and educate yourself between the difference of a muscle car and a Supra, and how stupid you look even making such an observation as that 'Ford fan'. And the next time you're driving around in your Mustang GT to go get your mocha at Starbucks, maybe you should take a minute to stop and realize how desperate Toyota is to drive your countries own auto industry into ruin (hopefully with the support of morons such as yourself) Because after all, who do we look to in order to provide our own fighting men and women as a first line of protection against roadside IED's over in Iraq for example? That task is laid at the feet of the domestics, such as AMGeneral LCC. Where every HMWVV starts out on a bare GM truck chassis, along with power train to match. And all to keep the limbs intact on those voluntarily serving over there, just so they'll be capable of walking, let alone operating an auto upon their return (Toyota or otherwise). Those are 'the trucks that's changing it all' I'm afraid, it isn't any bloated Toyota.

Better yet, maybe you should take your Ford and trade it in for a yoda, because that would fit you a whole lot better I'm sure. That's also why the country is in the shape that it's in today, clueless Americans such as yourslef who have to be persuaded into supporting their own auto industry as opposed to Japanese brands who merely assemble here through loop holes.

Leave it to me to make the mistake of arguing in support of domestic industry in a Ford forum though. Try bashing your head up against the rock 'Chuck', hopefully you'll wake yourself up as a result.