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[Cammer]

And I am pretty much positive Nascar doesn't care what you think or I?

That doesn't even make any sense, is that a question, or a statement?

So are you saying Ford, GM, Chrysler should only sell cars in the USA?

What does the layout of a stock car have to do with global car companies who manufacture? Again, the domestics are global (but they're headquartered in this country) That has zero bearing on the layout of a sedan series race car, and that layout being traced back to the bloodline of the manufacturer (the production lines) Two completely different things we're talking about Chuck. Fact is that of the four manufacturers in nascar, the only one who you can't trace that layout back to, is Toyota.

but you are making it sound like they are the only one to do this.

Give me one other example in the history of motorsports where one car manufacturer has cloned the entire layout of another all in order to compete against them on the track. When the Mustang goes drift racing, they don't convert the entire layout and power train to match a Honda now, do they Chuck?

What plant did you get laid off from?

Hey, remember the advice from our moderator and refrain from the condescending remarks, k? So how's this workin out for ya? Going to take another shot at attempting to change a valid point about the layout of the actual race cars to global sales?

I'm glad you're still posting though, because this gives anybody who happens across it a really clear view of how baseless your arguments actually are in support of foreign car corps who merely assemble their product here.

And I do extend my appreciation out to the mod, I'd get a bit riled if a new poster swung into my forum to challenge me as well (and perhaps I was a bit abrasive) But it's not anything personal, it's the premise of the subject matter. Those like Chuck who drag their feet on such a cut and dry issue as this, are a liability to us all (especially stang owners), because they feed others wrong information, and ascert it as fact.

And to Chuck again, c'mon Chuck, how many facts do you need to take up a little more of a support role for your own auto industry, and objecting to a Japanese car co. faking their performance image out on the race track to sell more foreign product?

[ChuckD]

How do you do the multiple quotes thing. I am so stupid I can't figure it out.

[BurnTire]

Press this button then place the text you want between the quote tags.

[ChuckD]

[Cammer]

[ChuckD]

Go reread and you will find it.

[Cammer]

Oh you mean this stupidity?

Now to the HMMVV, why is the gov't looking to replace it if its so great? How do I know this? I was one of the ones that was hit with an IED and have been in medical care since 07 and told that I couldn't go back to work.

I call BS on that 'hero' especially after reading pages of your stupidity, making sh** up is about your speed. Funny they're going to replace it when they've got them all setup like clockwork to take the force of an explosion now isn't it Chuck? You think the military hummer sucks? Well guess what? It can withstand a blast right now better than any other all purpose vehicle in the world. And is that due to the design of it?

No, that's due to domestic engineering where they have outfitted them with a steel reinforced blast plate shaped like a cone to redirect the force of the explosion out towards the sides of the vehicle from underneath, as opposed to up through the floorpan you moron. One thing I can't tolerate is a prick who resorts to grandious lying all because he's had his ass handed to him in an argument. If I was the mod here, I'd cringe, and ban his sorry ass just on principle. Yeah asshat, I wish I had read your stupidity a lot earlier.

[Cammer]

Oh yeah, and you're up pretty early and typing well after your '12 coronas' last night. Lets not forget that failed excuse for your stupidity either.

clown.

[ChuckD]

Your funny. There is people on here that knows what happened. I am not saying I am a "hero" I was doing the job I raised my hand to do. I have nothing to lie about. And with your lack of experiance on military issues, how do you know for a fact what happens in a blast. You watch too much tv. Have you ever heard of the ASV? It has a better record than the HMMVV. You wouldn't know that due to the fact you don't know what your talking about. YOU FAIL BTW thats me at the City of Ur in Iraq and I added a few pics of your beloved, can stand anything HMMVV. So I speak from experiance. Ball is in your court to provide excuesses.

[BurnTire]