Roll racing footage and pictures this weekend 12-17 or 12-18

**50 BMG** · 12-16-05, 10:45 AM

Copied from another thread...

Right now I'm pissed off at SVC cause my tune already leaned out in less than 1500 miles since they tuned it. I don't know shit about tuning and no one has tampered with the tune either...but I know enough that my a/f should not be at 13.2 on the DJWBC at 4000 RPM's...

**Venomous Bite** · 12-16-05, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by 50 BMG

Copied from another thread...

Right now I'm pissed off at SVC cause my tune already leaned out in less than 1500 miles since they tuned it. I don't know shit about tuning and no one has tampered with the tune either...but I know enough that my a/f should not be at 13.2 on the DJWBC at 4000 RPM's...

I am no tuner my self but I think that your sudden leaning out has nothing to do with how many miles you have since tuned. I however believe that you lean condition is being caused by two factors. First I think that the breather you took off may have been bleeding some boost off. Secondly I think that these cool temps out are also making you make more boost thus leaning out you tune. If I was you I would just through some torco or 101 in it unless you have a hand held tuner then I would add some fuel, or you can turn on you boost a pump which would add more fuel. These suggestions are just for the time being you should get it retuned but if you want to wait till you get a Whipple to retune I think these could work for the time being. Then again you know who I am so all of this I just typed doesn't mean shit.

**Gene** · 12-16-05, 12:29 PM

I like Rob and SVC, dont get me wrong, but I wouldn't let him tune my car. James, If you have an SCT ship or xcal already, have James at RWTD fix this mess for 100 bucks. He tunes off the maf, so it doesnt matter how much more boost you throw at it or the change in weather, A/F will always be the same. The cool weather will definitely lean you out if Rob didn't tune off the maf. I'd be pissed too. But bottom line, a tune is a tune, it will not change with time or mileage. The cooler weather or a vacuum leak/unmetered air is the problem. I don't run breathers BTW.

**50 BMG** · 12-16-05, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Venomous Bite

I am no tuner my self but I think that your sudden leaning out has nothing to do with how many miles you have since tuned. I however believe that you lean condition is being caused by two factors. First I think that the breather you took off may have been bleeding some boost off. Secondly I think that these cool temps out are also making you make more boost thus leaning out you tune. If I was you I would just through some torco or 101 in it unless you have a hand held tuner then I would add some fuel, or you can turn on you boost a pump which would add more fuel. These suggestions are just for the time being you should get it retuned but if you want to wait till you get a Whipple to retune I think these could work for the time being. Then again you know who I am so all of this I just typed doesn't mean shit.

I know it has nothing to do with the miles I've turned, just stating the fact. Everyone regularly on this board knows that SVC took my car from bone stock to the way it sits in my garage right now (not that it was a secret); the only exception is the reconnected PCV hose.

If reconnecting the PCV hose and removing the breather filter had that much of a fluctuation on the tune I doubt JLT would even include both options in their kit (even though it says a retune is recommended). Again, mabey I'm wrong but everything I've read online (not that it means shit) says breather vs. PCV has little effect if none at all on the A/F ratio. Correct me if I'm wrong...I often wonder why SVC even installed that ****ing breather when the PCV reconnect was included with all the shit I gave them from JLT.

Also, you (Venemous Bite) were riding with me when I discovered this. I wasn't even at 10 PSI on the gauge when I was at 4000 RPM's...

I know colder weather/denser air has an effect but this car maxed 16 PSI at SVC when the finalized tune was completed in beginning of September. It's seen over 16 PSI just 1 time, and you were in the other lane when that happened last Saturday night.

BTW, I ****ing hate typing on laptops.

**Gene** · 12-16-05, 12:39 PM

see my post in the terminator thread.

**matt** · 12-16-05, 01:14 PM

Wish I had the time to go out and meet you guys but this Christmas stuff is keeping me busy. Any plans to meet at one of the car shows, as I may be able to squeeze that in?

**NOEQUAL** · 12-16-05, 06:09 PM

SOOOO. . . . does any one actually know where were meeting?

**Gene** · 12-16-05, 06:56 PM

hows 3:00 at the applebees on either 59th and peoria or 83rd and bell?

**BurnTire** · 12-22-05, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by 50 BMG

Originally Posted by Venomous Bite

I am no tuner my self but I think that your sudden leaning out has nothing to do with how many miles you have since tuned. I however believe that you lean condition is being caused by two factors. First I think that the breather you took off may have been bleeding some boost off. Secondly I think that these cool temps out are also making you make more boost thus leaning out you tune. If I was you I would just through some torco or 101 in it unless you have a hand held tuner then I would add some fuel, or you can turn on you boost a pump which would add more fuel. These suggestions are just for the time being you should get it retuned but if you want to wait till you get a Whipple to retune I think these could work for the time being. Then again you know who I am so all of this I just typed doesn't mean shit.

I know it has nothing to do with the miles I've turned, just stating the fact. Everyone regularly on this board knows that SVC took my car from bone stock to the way it sits in my garage right now (not that it was a secret); the only exception is the reconnected PCV hose.

If reconnecting the PCV hose and removing the breather filter had that much of a fluctuation on the tune I doubt JLT would even include both options in their kit (even though it says a retune is recommended). Again, mabey I'm wrong but everything I've read online (not that it means shit) says breather vs. PCV has little effect if none at all on the A/F ratio. Correct me if I'm wrong...I often wonder why SVC even installed that ****ing breather when the PCV reconnect was included with all the shit I gave them from JLT.

Also, you (Venemous Bite) were riding with me when I discovered this. I wasn't even at 10 PSI on the gauge when I was at 4000 RPM's...

I know colder weather/denser air has an effect but this car maxed 16 PSI at SVC when the finalized tune was completed in beginning of September. It's seen over 16 PSI just 1 time, and you were in the other lane when that happened last Saturday night.

BTW, I ****ing hate typing on laptops.

RWTD=Good Tune

**Dan** · 12-22-05, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Burntire

Originally Posted by 50 BMG

Originally Posted by Venomous Bite

I am no tuner my self but I think that your sudden leaning out has nothing to do with how many miles you have since tuned. I however believe that you lean condition is being caused by two factors. First I think that the breather you took off may have been bleeding some boost off. Secondly I think that these cool temps out are also making you make more boost thus leaning out you tune. If I was you I would just through some torco or 101 in it unless you have a hand held tuner then I would add some fuel, or you can turn on you boost a pump which would add more fuel. These suggestions are just for the time being you should get it retuned but if you want to wait till you get a Whipple to retune I think these could work for the time being. Then again you know who I am so all of this I just typed doesn't mean shit.

I know it has nothing to do with the miles I've turned, just stating the fact. Everyone regularly on this board knows that SVC took my car from bone stock to the way it sits in my garage right now (not that it was a secret); the only exception is the reconnected PCV hose.

If reconnecting the PCV hose and removing the breather filter had that much of a fluctuation on the tune I doubt JLT would even include both options in their kit (even though it says a retune is recommended). Again, mabey I'm wrong but everything I've read online (not that it means shit) says breather vs. PCV has little effect if none at all on the A/F ratio. Correct me if I'm wrong...I often wonder why SVC even installed that ****ing breather when the PCV reconnect was included with all the shit I gave them from JLT.

Also, you (Venemous Bite) were riding with me when I discovered this. I wasn't even at 10 PSI on the gauge when I was at 4000 RPM's...

I know colder weather/denser air has an effect but this car maxed 16 PSI at SVC when the finalized tune was completed in beginning of September. It's seen over 16 PSI just 1 time, and you were in the other lane when that happened last Saturday night.

BTW, I ****ing hate typing on laptops.

RWTD=Good Tune

every tunner makes mistakes especialy when you cant see it on the dyno to know what the air fuel is and when you cant see what the fuel trims are doing, also after a number of mines the computer will try to lean it out becausethe last tunner didnot shut the relearn off. and yes the cold air makes it more dence directly effection the tune.. just my .02

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