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    E85 Results, Track / Dyno

    Video at the bottom has all the info as well if you don't want to read!

    Got the car tuned on Thursday on the E85 and had some great results. Same timing, same 11.9-12.0 A/F ratio and it picked up over the VP109 gas. Here is the graph



    So she picked up about 15-20hp and 10-15tq through the whole curve. All we did was drain the tank and add the E85 and retune.

    So fast forward to today. Was a bit chilly for racing but similar weather to what we get in October so this is a great comparison. I usually go easy the first pass or 2 to make sure the car feels stable and nothing is weird before going all out. Thank god i did bc the first pass I had an air bubble in the cooling system and about the 1/8 mile I saw the temp gauge go to 215+.

    Let it cool for an hour and topped off the coolant. Said F*%$ IT, im going for it. Car felt fine

    So shocks full loose, 2 step mid range and ready to rock. Car left great but didn't "feel" much stronger then the norm but man once I hit the 60' it came on HARD. For Comparison....

    Previous best at home track (similar weather)
    October 2010 after heavily messing with the launch (rpm, suspension etc)

    1.341 (almost a 1.33!!!)
    6.295 @ 108.19
    9.940 @ 133.79

    Previous best a couple weeks (Nov 2010) later down in Maryland ("Fast track")
    (similar weather)

    1.35
    6.27@108.75
    8.23
    9.90@134.4x

    AND TODAYS NEW BEST....FIRST AND ONLY FULL PASS OF 2011!

    1.356
    6.218 @ 109.74
    9.823 @ 135.12


    NO OTHER CHANGES TO THE CAR EXCEPT NEW FUEL SYSTEM AND THE USE OF E85!!!

    Now to tweak it and go the 9.7x i know it will!

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    Jake
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    9.82 @ 135 w/ a 1.35 - NO Nitrous!

    9.50 @ 139 w/ a 1.30 - Nitrous

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    Welcome to the corn club Jake. E85 Rocks compared to expensive race gas.
    Just be sure to test the consistency. I have seen 80 to 87% ethanol variance so far.
    It change the stoich in the tune according to the ethanol %. I am tuned for 11.6 A/F on the gas scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnTire View Post
    Welcome to the corn club Jake. E85 Rocks compared to expensive race gas.
    Just be sure to test the consistency. I have seen 80 to 87% ethanol variance so far.
    It change the stoich in the tune according to the ethanol %. I am tuned for 11.6 A/F on the gas scale.
    yea I really have ot up here in the northeast bc I got E77-78 in the tank now. My next batch will probably be a little higher and Ill probably see E85 come June/July
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    damn E85 is the shit!

    Would be really cool to see gains over 91 pump!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BADASS03SVT View Post
    yea I really have ot up here in the northeast bc I got E77-78 in the tank now. My next batch will probably be a little higher and Ill probably see E85 come June/July
    What stoich was set in your tune?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnTire View Post
    What stoich was set in your tune?
    we tried using the 9.7 but it wouldn't work. we used 10.7 and it instantly worked.
    Jake
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    9.50 @ 139 w/ a 1.30 - Nitrous

    **Click here for all my video's!!!**


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    Quote Originally Posted by BADASS03SVT View Post
    we tried using the 9.7 but it wouldn't work. we used 10.7 and it instantly worked.
    Would have probably been around 9.95 with 78-79%. You would have had to adjust the MAF Transfer to work with the correct stoich.

    I move the stoich .05 for ever % of E-85 Change. 80% I use 9.85 86% 9.55
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    did you do anything with the injectors form gas to e85?

    also I found this on YB. I might go back to the dyne and try going richer




    Lambda E85 AFR Gas AFR
    0.500 4.880 7.350
    0.510 4.978 7.497
    0.520 5.075 7.644
    0.530 5.173 7.791
    0.540 5.270 7.938
    0.550 5.368 8.085
    0.560 5.466 8.232
    0.570 5.563 8.379
    0.580 5.661 8.526
    0.590 5.758 8.673
    0.600 5.856 8.820
    0.610 5.954 8.967
    0.620 6.051 9.114
    0.630 6.149 9.261
    0.640 6.246 9.408
    0.650 6.344 9.555
    0.660 6.442 9.702
    0.670 6.539 9.849
    0.680 6.637 9.996
    0.690 6.734 10.143
    0.700 6.832 10.290
    0.710 6.930 10.437
    0.720 7.027 10.584
    0.730 7.125 10.731 @ Max Power Multi Turbo
    0.740 7.222 10.878
    0.750 7.320 11.025 @ Supercharged/Turbo
    0.760 7.418 11.172
    0.770 7.515 11.319 @ Max Power NA
    0.780 7.613 11.466
    0.790 7.710 11.613
    0.800 7.808 11.760 @ Consistant Race
    0.810 7.906 11.907
    0.820 8.003 12.054
    0.830 8.101 12.201
    0.840 8.198 12.348 @ Part throttle RACE
    0.850 8.296 12.495
    0.860 8.394 12.642
    0.870 8.491 12.789 @ Idle
    0.880 8.589 12.936
    0.890 8.686 13.083
    0.900 8.784 13.230
    0.910 8.882 13.377 @ Part throttle STREET (economy)
    0.920 8.979 13.524
    0.930 9.077 13.671
    0.940 9.174 13.818
    0.950 9.272 13.965
    0.960 9.370 14.112
    0.970 9.467 14.259
    0.980 9.565 14.406
    0.990 9.662 14.553
    1.000 9.760 14.700
    1.010 9.858 14.847
    1.020 9.955 14.994
    1.030 10.053 15.141
    1.040 10.150 15.288
    1.050 10.248 15.435
    1.060 10.346 15.582
    1.070 10.443 15.729
    1.080 10.541 15.876
    1.090 10.638 16.023
    1.100 10.736 16.170
    1.110 10.834 16.317
    1.120 10.931 16.464
    1.130 11.029 16.611
    1.140 11.126 16.758
    1.150 11.224 16.905
    1.160 11.322 17.052
    1.170 11.419 17.199
    1.180 11.517 17.346
    1.190 11.614 17.493
    1.200 11.712 17.640
    Jake
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    9.50 @ 139 w/ a 1.30 - Nitrous

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    I upped the injector delta pressure to 50PSI.

    What is your injector duty cycle?
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