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    Also check out the article on the manual trans, in the latest MMFF magazine. Ford switched and went to Getrag in stead of Tremec on the 2011's(NOT the GT500 tho) and the guys buildin HP are starting to have problems. Read the article to get all the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmagic1 View Post
    Also check out the article on the manual trans, in the latest MMFF magazine. Ford switched and went to Getrag in stead of Tremec on the 2011's(NOT the GT500 tho) and the guys buildin HP are starting to have problems. Read the article to get all the details.
    dont supra's have Getrag tranny's? must not be the same one lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahawkins View Post
    Ive seen videos and read articles in 5.0 magazine about Lethal Performances Whippled 5.0 and that thing is nuts!! My question is though, how much boost can these motors handle? From what I know they are forged rods and forged cranks but hypereutectic pistons, along with 11:1 compression ratio which I know is high for boosted applications.

    A future investment would definitely be a whipple/tvs/kenne supercharger
    I'm not so sure that the rods are like the aftermarket forged on the GTs, but I do know that the BOSS has a fully forged assy.
    As far as how much boost? You have two choices from Ford Racing
    Produces 525 SAE hp @ 6400 rpm and 470 SAE lb.-ft. @ 4200 rpm, at approximately 7 psi of boost with 93 octane fuel
    Produces 624 SAE hp @ 6900 rpm and 536 SAE lb.-ft. @ 4700 rpm, at approximately 9 psi of boost with 93 octane fuel
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahawkins View Post
    Ive seen videos and read articles in 5.0 magazine about Lethal Performances Whippled 5.0 and that thing is nuts!! My question is though, how much boost can these motors handle? From what I know they are forged rods and forged cranks but hypereutectic pistons, along with 11:1 compression ratio which I know is high for boosted applications.

    A future investment would definitely be a whipple/tvs/kenne supercharger
    Forged rods are only in the 03/04 Cobra and the new Boss motors. They didn't want to for over the money again. I think the 01 Cobra rods were $7 and the Manley Rods were $50+ each during production

    Future investment you say? Is this car going to be with you for a long time or just until you want something else? Keep a long time= Cobra, investment/fun toy for a few years= '11 5.0. BTW I rated an 11 GT on my Cobra Insurance and it went down over $250 for 6 months. Same with a C6Z. Crazy how cheap newer cars are for me.

    Another thing to think about, you wont find many banks/credit unions willing to loan 75% or more on an 03/04 Mustang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Jefe View Post
    Another thing to think about, you wont find many banks/credit unions willing to loan 75% or more on an 03/04 Mustang.
    VERY key!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLK03SVT View Post
    Or get a GT500 and it comes with a supercharger! :)
    Well sure I would have one right now, if I was pulling in 6 figures a year =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Jefe View Post
    Forged rods are only in the 03/04 Cobra and the new Boss motors. They didn't want to for over the money again. I think the 01 Cobra rods were $7 and the Manley Rods were $50+ each during production

    Future investment you say? Is this car going to be with you for a long time or just until you want something else? Keep a long time= Cobra, investment/fun toy for a few years= '11 5.0. BTW I rated an 11 GT on my Cobra Insurance and it went down over $250 for 6 months. Same with a C6Z. Crazy how cheap newer cars are for me.

    Another thing to think about, you wont find many banks/credit unions willing to loan 75% or more on an 03/04 Mustang.
    Quote Originally Posted by WildBill View Post
    I'm not so sure that the rods are like the aftermarket forged on the GTs, but I do know that the BOSS has a fully forged assy.
    As far as how much boost? You have two choices from Ford Racing
    Produces 525 SAE hp @ 6400 rpm and 470 SAE lb.-ft. @ 4200 rpm, at approximately 7 psi of boost with 93 octane fuel
    Produces 624 SAE hp @ 6900 rpm and 536 SAE lb.-ft. @ 4700 rpm, at approximately 9 psi of boost with 93 octane fuel

    Yeah It would be nice to get a GT and put a Boss rotating assembly in it, so I could have everything fully forged and rev the motor to 7500+ rpms =D plus I would rather not pay used 07+ GT500 prices for a Boss 302.

    Regardless, the numbers these motors are making that the whipple at even 9 lbs of boost are spectacular! over 600+ hp with supporting mods. And I think insurance wont be as bad as I thought because I remember comparing lightnings/terminators/ and c5 Z06's and the vettes were the cheapest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahawkins View Post

    regardless, the numbers these motors are making that the whipple at even 9 lbs of boost are spectacular! Over 600+ hp with supporting mods. And i think insurance wont be as bad as i thought because i remember comparing lightnings/terminators/ and c5 z06's and the vettes were the cheapest!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahawkins View Post
    Well sure I would have one right now, if I was pulling in 6 figures a year =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnTire View Post
    Well thats up to you. If you are looking for a more refined ride go with the new 5.0.
    If you want to build a serious monster go with the terminator.
    Burn Tire's right on the money. I've had both and and would rather have the 2011 for what I use the car for.

    The other thing to consider though is that there are some really nice Terminators showing up on the open market every now and then for half of what you are going to pay for the 2011. A Whippled 03 with a solid for mid-high teens is a steal if you ask me.
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