E85 tuning

[az2k1]

I will going to E85 next year. On forced induction motors it seems like a 10% gain can be expected due to the much cooler burn and reduced cylinder temps. Keep in mind you will need fuel system upgrades as it will take about 30 to 40% more fuel at WOT.

o cool ....a friend of my is going to come down from New Mexico to tune some car with E-85 . He wanted me to see if there were 3 on more guys that wanted to get there cars tune . His name is Dave @ Hellion motorsports and yes he is a great tuner thats who tune my car ...

[WildBill]

o cool ....a friend of my is going to come down from New Mexico to tune some car with E-85 . He wanted me to see if there were 3 on more guys that wanted to get there cars tune . His name is Dave @ Hellion motorsports and yes he is a great tuner thats who tune my car ...

Just make sure you have the fuel system to support the additional fuel needed. That could mean bigger injectors, fuel lines and pumps.
E85 is nice, but pump supplies are limited and e85 can be very inconsistently mixed at the pump, it is very hygroscopic(water loving) and the ratios do change from winter to summer.

I really wouldn't bother using it with a N/A engine unless it was a specifically built with at least higher compression to take advantage of the higher octane to regain some fuel efficiency lost by going to e85.

[Rev'n Kevin]

Ok Boys and Girls, today we will learn a new word and it's true meaning...

hygroscopic.
(1) Possessing a marked ability to accelerate the condensation of water vapor; applied to condensation nuclei composed of salts that yield aqueous solutions of a very low equilibrium vapor pressure compared with that of pure water at the same temperature. (2) Pertaining to a substance whose physical characteristics are appreciably altered by effects of water vapor. (3) Pertaining to water absorbed by dry soil minerals from the atmosphere; the amounts depend on the physicochemical character of the surfaces, and increase with rising relative humidity.

That was for everyone except WB, as he was in the Navy and knows a lot about water.

Sorry Bill, but I'm up late too and could not resist, lol

[IMSHAKN]

Ok Boys and Girls, today we will learn a new word and it's true meaning...

hygroscopic.
(1) Possessing a marked ability to accelerate the condensation of water vapor; applied to condensation nuclei composed of salts that yield aqueous solutions of a very low equilibrium vapor pressure compared with that of pure water at the same temperature. (2) Pertaining to a substance whose physical characteristics are appreciably altered by effects of water vapor. (3) Pertaining to water absorbed by dry soil minerals from the atmosphere; the amounts depend on the physicochemical character of the surfaces, and increase with rising relative humidity.

That was for everyone except WB, as he was in the Navy and knows a lot about water.

Sorry Bill, but I'm up late too and could not resist, lol

Lol, tell me about it. That's the one thing about E85 that I've never liked. But unfortunately it's a property of the fuel due to its chemical composition. I hate having to fight this with many of the chemicals I work with in the lab. Knowing how big of a problem it really is and having seen / experienced problems with contamination in the lab, it'd scare me to rely on this fuel.

Water contamination of the fuel = bad. The more water the fuel absorbs the more you decrease its energy content. Making the potential benefits of the fuel to not be fully realized.

[ASUSMC]

Lol, tell me about it. That's the one thing about E85 that I've never liked. But unfortunately it's a property of the fuel due to its chemical composition. I hate having to fight this with many of the chemicals I work with in the lab. Knowing how big of a problem it really is and having seen / experienced problems with contamination in the lab, it'd scare me to rely on this fuel.

Water contamination of the fuel = bad. The more water the fuel absorbs the more you decrease its energy content. Making the potential benefits of the fuel to not be fully realized.

Could you counteract this by putting some sort of water filter on the fuel similar to a Diesel?

[WildBill]

Could you counteract this by putting some sort of water filter on the fuel similar to a Diesel?

Nope.........It's like brake fluid. It just absorbs it.