anyone have Meth kits on 03 cobra?

[Mr.GSXR1000]

Just wondering if anyone on here has pictures of how they plummed there methanol kits and were they did it. What kind they used and what kind of hp difference was there. Im thinking about getting a snow performance meth kit and was wanting to research before i got it. thakns and just let me know:highfive:

[BurnTire]

No meth here, but I am planning on doing an E85 setup next year. 105 Octane for $2 a gallon. 10% horsepower gain and a much cooler cylinder temp.

[Mr.GSXR1000]

wish i could go e85, but we have no pumps around were i live in kentucky. So i was wanting to put methanol kit on so i can run my 24lb pulley with meth and 93 octane. What all do you have to do to switch to E85?

[BurnTire]

Why not some high octane race gas?

[Mr.GSXR1000]

well to be honest i drive my car on nice weekends and stuff, and i wouldnt want to cruise around on c16 or 110 cause that would get quite expensive c16 is right around $80 for 5 gallons

[BurnTire]

I was thinking for the track only. 24 PSI on the street is impossible to manage. LOL

Hell I can hookup with 20PSI in first gear and so so in second. :3gears:

[Mr.GSXR1000]

not really for street, but i would want to rip if need yano what i mean, if some dumb ass rolled up next to me id like to put him in his spot..do you just mix your gas to make it higher octane or how do you drain what you have first or what do you do?

[Dan]

C16? are you a turbo car?

[Mr.GSXR1000]

whipple cobra, i said c16 cause thats what im use to run on my nitrous bike

[WildBill]

whipple cobra, i said c16 cause thats what im use to run on my nitrous bike

C-16 kills O2s and isn't a SC fuel.

[Mr.GSXR1000]

i havent ran it yet, waht would be the best gas then, 110. Any leaded gas kills 02s

[BurnTire]

isn't a SC fuel.

:z7shysterical:

[BurnTire]

i havent ran it yet, waht would be the best gas then, 110. Any leaded gas kills 02s VP109 or Sunoco GT 260 Plus. I prefer the VP109.

[Mr.GSXR1000]

what octane is that? Were is the best place to order it and how much is 55 gal? Sorry guys, im still trying to learn stuff about cars, i am a bike guru, been 5.20's on my street ridden bike and know it from bolt to bolt, just trying to get cars in line also. Thanks again and dont mean to get on anyone nerves

[BurnTire]

what octane is that? Were is the best place to order it and how much is 55 gal? Sorry guys, im still trying to learn stuff about cars, i am a bike guru, been 5.20's on my street ridden bike and know it from bolt to bolt, just trying to get cars in line also. Thanks again and dont mean to get on anyone nerves

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/vp-drag-racing.html

You could contact VP to find a local dealer.

Sunoco
http://www.sunocoinc.com/site/Consumer/RaceFuels/UnleadedFuels/

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Also be aware the unleaded race fuel has a lower stoich rating so it will run leaner. You need to have a tune for it. If MAF Transfer is dialed in it is as simple as changing the stoich rating in the tune with the SCT stuff.
http://www.highperformancestangs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9682

[BurnTire]

not really for street, but i would want to rip if need yano what i mean, if some dumb ass rolled up next to me id like to put him in his spot..do you just mix your gas to make it higher octane or how do you drain what you have first or what do you do? I have a T at the fuel rail and a tune that turns the pumps on with the key on.

[Mr.GSXR1000]

that seems confusing

[BurnTire]

that seems confusing LOL

If you have a tune for pump gas for 11.8 A/F and put VP 109 in the tank your airfuel will now read in the mid to upper 12's. To make a long story short you need to have a tune for the race gas and pump gas. It is best to get it tuned on 100% race gas. Then if you had a little pump gas mixed in with the race fuel at a later date the tune would go a little richer.

Leaded race fuel has a stoich rating very close to pump gas so you could use that and increase timing on the street tune, but your 02 sensors will not last as long.

[Mr.GSXR1000]

yea i was going to get 2 different tunes and switch them out with the excaliber. But yea ill check up with sunco on monday

[speedemon138]

You need to look into the Velocity Stage-3 Intercooler, Heat Shield Gasket Set and their Stage-3 Heat Exchanger. That shit is Sick!

The freaking Heat Exchanger is a 12.5" tall by 27" wide core with the option of a Dual 11" Spal Fan Shroud, that is bigger than what is on my radiator ......WTF?

I talk with the guys over at D'Agostino as well as Velocity and judging from the info I have been able to obtain, this should allow you to stretch your fuel much further.

I know that they pushed 1500hp through the Stage-2 GT500 Intercooler with a result of 78deg IAT, that sounds like what you need.

I am running Alcohol on my Drag, Ralley & Road car, if I would get rid of it on all my cars with a better intercooler I know I would. I am looking into getting one or 2 of their upgraded intercoolers for my Vortech and Procharger cars. If that works then I will do my Turbo cars also. I will see if I can get some more data but I have very limited time right now.

I was also able to get Velocity to Post up some pics of the stage-3 H/E and intercooler on their Photobucket Page.

www.photobucket.com/velocityturbosystems (http://www.photobucket.com/velocityturbosystems)


Hopefully Derek or Sergio will chime in and give us a bit more information on the Stage-3 Stuff.

Here are a few links from their PB Page:

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/VelocityTurboSystems/SVT%20COBRA/Stage-3CobraHTR.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/VelocityTurboSystems/SVT%20COBRA/Stage-3CobraHeatExchanger.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/VelocityTurboSystems/IMG_6735.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/VelocityTurboSystems/IMG_6752.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/VelocityTurboSystems/IMG_6739.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/VelocityTurboSystems/IMG_6739.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/VelocityTurboSystems/IMG_6317.jpg

[WildBill]

How in the HELL does an intercooler let you stretch your fuel further???????????????????

"Lucy! You got some 'splainin' to do!"


I know that they pushed 1500hp through the Stage-2 GT500 Intercooler with a result of 78deg IAT, that sounds like what you need.
Ummmm..................that info means nothing without AMBIENT AIR TEMPS!

[speedemon138]

How in the HELL does an intercooler let you stretch your fuel further???????????????????

"Lucy! You got some 'splainin' to do!"


Ummmm..................that info means nothing without AMBIENT AIR TEMPS!

From what I got from my search, the car is a Bonneville car and it is running a water box over the 5 mile run. Last year the engine blew up b/c the intercooler could not keep up with the previous 1000hp E85 configuration.

As far as stretching the fuel goes, I just got that from my local tuner, I think he meant timing not fuel.

I will double check on Monday.

From the Thermal Coupling Data Sheet that I found on their photobucket page, it looks as if their Air to Air setups are seeing around 90% efficiency on average. That is one hell of a lot better then what you read on Prochargers Intercooler Specs page. They are claiming 75% efficiency with ZERO evidence, at least with thise data sheet I can see that they are proving their claim. Even if Procharger could offer testing data proving 75% it would not really help them. They are achieving the SAE standard using the SAE standard for Ambient Air Temp. If you look at the Velocity Chart you will see that they are not using the SAE 77deg standard for Ambient they are using 115deg as their Ambient base. So if you compared them back to back, technically Velocity's would be over 100% efficient when compared to the Procharger standards.

I hope that clears things up a bit.



http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/VelocityTurboSystems/IntercoolerTesttableandVariablesSma.jpg

Also, I just think that the fact that FORD Racing was the main sponsor of the Hajek Record Mustang and that they decided to use the VTSRacing.com Intercooler has to say something about their performance claims.

Here is the Press release from the Salt Flats World Record set by Hajek Motorsports/Ford Racing using the Velocity Stage-2 GT500 Intercooler:

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/VelocityTurboSystems/cid_image001_jpg01CA4B1F.jpg

[WildBill]

All I can say for you newb..................You're all over the place.

And why do you need to search?

[BurnTire]

All I can say for you newb..................You're all over the place.

And why do you need to search?

As an oldb may you can take it easy on the new guy.

[WildBill]

As an oldb may you can take it easy on the new guy.

What have I said that was "hard"?

[BurnTire]

What have I said that was "hard"?
It is pretty obvious which way this thread is going to go.

The subject is irrelevant at this point as the original poster is going to an E85 setup.

[WildBill]

It is pretty obvious which way this thread is going to go.

The subject is irrelevant at this point as the original poster is going to an E85 setup.

Really? You're a minder reader or you can predict the future now?

WOW!! You're a cool bus driver.:biglaugh:

[BurnTire]

Really? You're a minder reader or you can predict the future now?

WOW!! You're a cool bus driver.:biglaugh:

History is a good indication of the future:hyper:


Pretty nice office for a Bus Driver. You know the one many young and old dream of working in.
http://www.transair.co.uk/images/posters/a319_320_321.jpg

[WildBill]

History is a good indication of the future:hyper:

Tell that to your rear:biglaugh:

[BurnTire]

Tell that to your rear:biglaugh:

Actually the 8.8 has been working fine other than some whine that I would never hear if I had louder mufflers.

[Mr.GSXR1000]

thanks again burntire, sorry wild bill for making your life miserable, but im just curious on some stuff. but i am going ot e85 and will be tuning it tuesday. But thanks again burntire for the help

[WildBill]

thanks again burntire, sorry wild bill for making your life miserable, but im just curious on some stuff. but i am going ot e85 and will be tuning it tuesday. But thanks again burntire for the help

How are you making my life miserable? Jeffy is like this all the time!:biglaugh:

One thing. Be very careful of where you get your E85. Some states vary on where it's mixed. Some mix where the tankers get filled and some mix at the station. Station mixing can be inaccurate. Best may be to get it by the barrel to get the consistency you need, especially if you are going to push the limit. In either way, remember that E85 is hygroscopic. It loves to absorb water and that's not good.

[Fast SVT]

Okay, revival....

Bob@Kurgan is talking me into running meth so that I can run 91 Octane in Germany and I'll be getting a 93+meth tune as well. I am wanting to run meth for a few reasons.

1) Lower's combustion chamber temps (i'm going to skip the head cooling mod)
2) Allows for the car to be tuned as if running higher octane without paying for race gas
3) slightly lowers IAT's but not as much as on turbo and non-twin screw applications

My questions is: has anyone setup a meth kit to spray after the air is compressed? i.e. plumbed it for the lower intake after the KB? I've heard of people doing this to get the best IAT benefits but have seen no supporting data.

[Fast SVT]

http://www.alternativeauto.com/images/mach-1-lower-meth-nozzles.jpg

http://www.alternativeauto.com/misc/mach1_project_dec-05.html