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Mr. Austin
05-31-09, 11:22 PM
OK i will try and give as much detail.

I have received used parts in very good condition and am applying them to my 302. I am putting on a performer 289 dual plane intake manifold with a 180* thermo. On top is a 1 inch spacer with shot gun barrel holes. then the carb is an Edelbrock 600 CFM polished. i have bought the kick down levers and they are on. fuel is on and hooked up. and the idle is set to a good position not to high and not the very nickers of the carb. when i give it gas about half throttle it stay running and when i let off it dies. it wont star unless it is there. when it is it as running at high RPM. i took the carb apart and the floats move just fine.. Need help badly.
Mr. Austin
06-01-09, 03:55 PM
Something im not doing right?
WildBill
06-01-09, 07:29 PM
Manual or electric choke?
Is this when it's at full temp?




Have you PROPERLY adjusted the mix on the idle circuit?
If you don't understand what I just said, ya need to get a Chilton's for that year of car. and look at the tune up section. It explains it quite well.
Mr. Austin
06-01-09, 08:17 PM
Manual or electric choke?
Is this when it's at full temp?




Have you PROPERLY adjusted the mix on the idle circuit?
If you don't understand what I just said, ya need to get a Chilton's for that year of car. and look at the tune up section. It explains it quite well.

No its not when it is at full temp. and its a manual. but i tried it both when te choke is on and off.

And i have played with the mix kept the idle a little higher to help it start easier and took the 2 screws all the way in then back out about three turns. they say thats the best place to start because its not too lean but it wont burn fuel like mad. (i think thats what your talking about. ill pay them a visit.)
Mr. Austin
06-01-09, 10:31 PM
im going to give there tech line a call tomorrow but if anyone can give a hand i would appreciate it. im home tomorrow and wednesday.
WildBill
06-01-09, 10:49 PM
im going to give there tech line a call tomorrow but if anyone can give a hand i would appreciate it. im home tomorrow and wednesday.

I don't have ANY of my books here in PHX. Get the Chilton's book for your car...or other car repair book. Pick up a cheap large vacuum gauge and bring the info sheet for the carb so we know which vacuum port is ported or look on line for the carb info. I can take a look at it if you can bring it to the shop tomorrow afternoon after 1.

Do you have AC on the car and does it work? I can't remember if there is a place to have a dashpot on that carb or not.
Mr. Austin
06-01-09, 11:09 PM
i "used" to have ac. i took the compressor out and is now in storage. i dont drive the car in the summer and so i didnt need it when i rebuilt the motor. i have no way of getting it out to your shop unfortunately and i have shop manuals for my car already they are the ford edition manuals im not sure if they would do the trick. my car was NOT a 4b in the first place so this is a whole new change.
WildBill
06-01-09, 11:16 PM
i "used" to have ac. i took the compressor out and is now in storage. i dont drive the car in the summer and so i didnt need it when i rebuilt the motor. i have no way of getting it out to your shop unfortunately and i have shop manuals for my car already they are the ford edition manuals im not sure if they would do the trick. my car was NOT a 4b in the first place so this is a whole new change.

Well........the offer stands. As long as I have some spare time, I don't mind doing it for you. ............and you might learn something at the same time.

If you want to stop by with your manuals, I might be able to show ya what sections are applicable and give ya a few tips.
Mr. Austin
06-01-09, 11:44 PM
ok thanks! i will be in the garage in the mornind and if i can get a trailer i will bring the car by :)
HIKER
06-02-09, 11:49 AM
Sounds like a major vacumm leak somewhere. Why are you using a 1" spacer under the carb?
WildBill
06-02-09, 12:08 PM
Sounds like a major vacumm leak somewhere. Why are you using a 1" spacer under the carb?

Prolly to adapt the carb to the manifold.
Mr. Austin
06-02-09, 01:18 PM
Sounds like a major vacumm leak somewhere. Why are you using a 1" spacer under the carb?


Ya know someone else told me that and i looked at every inch of the carb and could not find a leak. now that 2 people have said the same thing it prolly is i just dont know where. ill take some pics and post um and see if u gents can see anything. and i put a 1 inch because it was on sale and it give the car more torq and volume.. should i not be?
WildBill
06-02-09, 04:23 PM
Ya know someone else told me that and i looked at every inch of the carb and could not find a leak. now that 2 people have said the same thing it prolly is i just dont know where. ill take some pics and post um and see if u gents can see anything. and i put a 1 inch because it was on sale and it give the car more torq and volume.. should i not be?

Spray cab cleaner on where vacuum leaks could be and listen for a change in the engine
LOL....you can't SEE vacuum leaks.
HIKER
06-02-09, 04:40 PM
i put a 1 inch because it was on sale and it give the car more torq and volume.. should i not be?

Dude............................ If that's the reason. pull that thing off.... Spacers are only for applications where you need clearance and have to adapt a particular carb to a different manifold, like spreadbore carbs to non-spreadbore manifold.

Like Bill said said spray something flamable like carb cleaner or something.....NOT GAS. around the manifold intake and any hose hook-up point. Make sure no hoses have cracks. Check intake to head areas for leaks. Do you have pwr brakes?
Mr. Austin
06-02-09, 05:52 PM
yes i do. i re did all of my space gaskets and stuff just now and put a little rtv in each gasket no good.
HIKER
06-02-09, 08:57 PM
Disconnect the power brake boaster and plug the line, try again.
Mr. Austin
06-03-09, 04:32 AM
out of curiosity how would that effect it? and i know u cant see them but i mean plug wise. was trying to make sure where plugs should be there is one
WildBill
06-03-09, 12:22 PM
out of curiosity how would that effect it? and i know u cant see them but i mean plug wise. was trying to make sure where plugs should be there is one
Austin!!!
If you have power brakes, the diaphragm on the brake booster could be leaking and causing a vacuum leak. Given the age of the car, this is a distinct possibility! Plug the vacuum port for the brake booster at the MANIFOLD.............or pull the fitting off the line for the brake booster and stick a big enough bolt in the hose to tightly plug the hose.
Mr. Austin
06-03-09, 12:46 PM
ok but on that fitting i have two other lines that connect so i can only really plug that on hole. i will have pic later today
Mr. Austin
06-04-09, 07:30 PM
i pulled the entire manifold off and redid everything. not a big deal. put RTV Red on where the gaskets in front and back should be then i put new gaskets on the heads. i took a metal file on the manifold and it is not warped it is perfect still.. put it back on let it set for 4 hours and put everything back on.....everything it back and on right and tight and it is still doing the same SH)( so now i am going to pull the carb back off and rebuild it to see if the idle balls are not sitting or clogged.
Mr. Austin
06-09-09, 03:40 PM
i will be in the garage at 10ish tomorrow morning. Is there anyone that is willing to give me a hand and knows what they are doing with a carb? Any help Appreciated!
HIKER
06-09-09, 04:55 PM
Check the net... There has to be tutorals on rebuilding those..
Mr. Austin
06-09-09, 05:13 PM
i already rebuilt it.. the only this it can be is the person who had it before me ut gibber jets on it and now it is getting too much fuel. so when the throttle it half way open it is getting the air it wants.
HIKER
06-10-09, 02:37 PM
The jet size has nothing to do with running at idle. You said it seems to run well when rev'd up and holding at higher RPM. If it's dying at idle or RPM's under 2000, it has to be your idle circuit or major vacuum leak.

Are you running a points distributor or electronic.....?

Maybe someone has a spare used carb you can loan for an afternoon to verify that your carb is indeed bad.
Mr. Austin
06-11-09, 03:09 PM
Not a bad idea to try. and i have points still. my next objective or project on the car was an electronic
Mr. Austin
06-13-09, 05:35 PM
OK so i will be taking my car to PSR at the end of the month to get it checked out by a shop. i can no longer handle it nor am i in town. at the end of june i will be in town and i have to be in heber on july 4th a prefer my car. Any suggestions?