rear shocks?

[AZSonicSnake]

ok, so it was pointed out to me that i need a new pair of rear shocks. something that i can adjust. i know there are a few choices, like strange has a 10 way adjustable, and tokico has the illunminas and the d-specs. whats the best choice? i would appreciate any input.

oh, btw- my car is a SRA car... no irs here!

[BurnTire]

I have tokico's 5 way adjustable
http://www.lethalperformance.com/pages-main/category-465_728_730/99-04-mustang-gt-suspension-shocks.html

[BUSTED]

Competition Engineering three way adjustables are a great deal. if they ever start to fail i will look into QA1's double adj.

MMR Sells them for 129$ per pair, and they have the same 50/50 setting you have been running with the lakewoods.

Also have 40/60 and 30/70 settings

They are cheap, but so are the lakewoods and they are obviously working for you.

[4Jenna]

I have always ran Strange adj all the way around and been very happy

[Ruckus46gt]

i ran tokico illumina's in my stang for 3 years no issues. I stayed away from strang because of clunking noises I repeatedly heard about on different boards. Otherwise stranges work great and are priced nicely

[AZSonicSnake]

They are cheap, but so are the lakewoods and they are obviously working for you.

they were, but i think they are shot. i had a few people watch the car this past weekend, tryin to figure out whats costing me on my launch right now, and i was told that the shocks look to not be doing thier job properly. so, since i am gonna replace them, i wanna get something that i can dial in for varying track conditions.

[BurnTire]

Anti roll bar would help greatly.

[AZSonicSnake]

maybe after shocks! i am not against anything that helps the launch, but gotta fix the basics first. have the illuminas provided you enough adjustment at the track?

[BurnTire]

Yes I run the rears on setting 4.
5 is the stiffest.
I also have the 2000 bullet springs.

On the front side I have the tokico drag struts set on 4 also.

The first launch on setting 1 pulled the front tires way up. LOL

Everything seems to work well. I am going to play with tire pressure and launch RPMs as I feel the car should be able to 60 in the 1.3x range.

Based on my videos the front tires seem to stay on the ground with full strut extension to the shift point.

What is your current spring / shock setup?

[AZSonicSnake]

lakewood 90/10's up front, with lakewood 50/50's in the back. eibach drag launch springs in the rear with qa1 14" 220lb springs in the front.

[wickedcobra]

I have the Tokico D-specs. They are infinately adjustable.

[soap]

I have had good luck with my QA-1 shocks, they are 12 way adjustable.

--Joe

[AZSonicSnake]

thanks for all the input! due too two cars i know having extremely good 60' times, and running the illuminas on them, i ended up ordering a pair of those today. we will see what happens!

[BurnTire]

thanks for all the input! due too two cars i know having extremely good 60' times, and running the illuminas on them, i ended up ordering a pair of those today. we will see what happens! Ahh Now get some Tokicos in the front with some 175lb springs. :bounce:

[AZSonicSnake]

we'll see! one thing at a time. not going back to 175's up front though, it was not street able imo with that weak of a spring.

[BurnTire]

Mine are not that bad with the struts on 4. They are crazy loose with the struts on 1.

[soap]

not going back to 175's up front though, it was not street able imo with that weak of a spring.

Nothing at all wrong with 175# springs up front. What length were you using?? You should use a 14" coil.

I run those with the adjustable Tokico's up front (set to 5 on the street).......they work great. My car is lowered and I drive it all over, never bottom out the struts or other issues.

--Joe

[AZSonicSnake]

i did have a 14" on there, but i have lakewood 90/10's on the front. i drove around for a few weeks, and i could not stand it. i bottomed out over everything, and speedbumps made me scared for my life. the 225's have made it far more driveable on the street.

[4Jenna]

Sounds like coil bind possibly, your car may just be nose heavy also.

Most cars can run the 14/175's fine on the street thats why it is considered the all around street/strip spring.

I have ran 14/130s in mine...talk about soft.

haha

[BUSTED]

+1 on the anti-roll bar, i did one too and its much better

[4Jenna]

ARB owns!

Not all are intended for street use though.

[BurnTire]

i did have a 14" on there, but i have lakewood 90/10's on the front. i drove around for a few weeks, and i could not stand it. i bottomed out over everything, and speedbumps made me scared for my life. the 225's have made it far more driveable on the street.

More of a strut issue than spring.

[soap]

More of a strut issue than spring.

Yup.

90/10 are way too soft for actual street use. Sure you can poke around with them, but they can not be driven on like a nice set of adjustables.

--Joe

[4Jenna]

Sure they can, he drives his car all the time as did I on 90/10s back in the day.

Yes the adjustables can be made stiffer for a better street ride, but tons drive on 90/10s everyday...no big deal.

[soap]

Yup.

90/10 are way too soft for actual street use. Sure you can poke around with them, but they can not be driven on like a nice set of adjustables.

--Joe


Sure they can, he drives his car all the time as did I on 90/10s back in the day.

Yes the adjustables can be made stiffer for a better street ride, but tons drive on 90/10s everyday...no big deal.


I don't understand what the argument is since you agreed with what I said.

Yes they can be driven on the street, but like I said (and you agreed) they will never drive like a nice adjustable.

--Joe

[AZSonicSnake]

i compensated with the spring, and it works just fine. with the stiffer spring, its not bad at all. but with the 175, it was bottoming out, and just felt overly slopy on the road and at the track. but the front feels fine now with the setup. i had a good friend watch my launch and he feels that my back shocks are not doing thier job as well, and thus the desire to get better rear shocks. i am not debating about the setup in the front, as its doing its job nicely.

[4Jenna]

Yup.

90/10 are way too soft for actual street use. Sure you can poke around with them, but they can not be driven on like a nice set of adjustables.

--Joe

You can do much more than "poke around with them" as you said thats my point. The fine tuning of these adj struts are for drag to road race, you find a happy medium for street use....it's nice to have the adjustability but far from a nessecity. The one setting 90/10...70/30 or whatever will work just fine on the street, and will not deminish the driving ability of the car (wont corner like a adj set-up for that)....you can do much more than "poke around"

You said they are to soft for actual street use as well, which is wrong. I said tons drive on the street with these daily with no issues. I use to think that to, untill I ran them.

Now that I wrote a book, maybe I make sense.

-Chris

[BurnTire]

The entire issue is weight transfer. The 90/10's are working fine with the 225 spring for Tony on the street, but that is not the optimum spring for the best 60ft time.

My tokico drag struts with a 175 lb 14" spring on the stiff setting is very streetable.

Tony's has feed back that the 90/10s are too soft with a 175lb spring. The cobra has a very heavy front end due to the motor weight.

So what Soap is getting at is a strut like the tokico drag can be streetable with a 175lb 14" spring which has been proven to be the best spring for drag racing on a 03/04 cobra.

[4Jenna]

A 90/10 is streetable with a 14/175....tons do it. Each car is different, but this is a combo that is tried and true. Thats all I am saying. Sure a adj is better though, thats why i eventually swapped to adjustables.

Not trying to start a debate here, all's I was trying to say was a 90/10 can do more than poke around on the street. They work fine..stop n go, highway, in traffic what ever....my car just rode like a caddy is all. HAHA.

I dont know why I'm even in the 03-04 Cobra section trying to give tech...I don't even own one. I was only trying to help since I have ran Lakewood 90/10s, 70/30s, Comp Eng 90/10s, and Strang adjustables. As for spring rates i have ran 14" 130/150/175/225 and 12" 175/225 along with a variety of standard springs suchs a Eibach Drag etc so I do have a lil experience. I was only trying to give my real world data.

-Chris

[BurnTire]

i compensated with the spring, and it works just fine. with the stiffer spring, its not bad at all. but with the 175, it was bottoming out, and just felt overly slopy on the road and at the track. but the front feels fine now with the setup. i had a good friend watch my launch and he feels that my back shocks are not doing thier job as well, and thus the desire to get better rear shocks. i am not debating about the setup in the front, as its doing its job nicely.

This was Tonys experience. An 03/04 cobra probably has in excess of 100 lbs more weight in the front than your car.


A 90/10 is streetable with a 14/175....tons do it. Each car is different, but this is a combo that is tried and true. Thats all I am saying. Sure a adj is better though, thats why i eventually swapped to adjustables.

Not trying to start a debate here, all's I was trying to say was a 90/10 can do more than poke around on the street. They work fine..stop n go, highway, in traffic what ever....my car just rode like a caddy is all. HAHA.

I dont know why I'm even in the 03-04 Cobra section trying to give tech...I don't even own one. I was only trying to help since I have ran Lakewood 90/10s, 70/30s, Comp Eng 90/10s, and Strang adjustables. As for spring rates i have ran 14" 130/150/175/225 and 12" 175/225 along with a variety of standard springs suchs a Eibach Drag etc so I do have a lil experience. I was only trying to give my real world data.

-Chris

I am starting to think you have seen the light and want a cobra with a blower. :biglaugh:

[AZSonicSnake]

i would think the 03-04 has 150-200lbs more weight on the front. with the blower, cast iron block and what not. but it just felt like poo with that setup. ;)

[4Jenna]

I have a heavy turbo, pipeing, and a huge intercooler for nose weight

but ok

[AZSonicSnake]

your too funny man! :biglaugh: :bounce:

[BurnTire]

I have a heavy turbo, pipeing, and a huge intercooler for nose weight

but ok

And that light weight single cam motor.:hyper:

[4Jenna]

That aftermarket 4 main bolt R block be pretty heavy man! Way heavier than a production 302 block.

Nice high nickle content!

I refuse to loose this one hehe :laughing:

[BurnTire]

That aftermarket 4 main bolt R block be pretty heavy man! Way heavier than a production 302 block.

Nice high nickle content!

I refuse to loose this one hehe :laughing:

Eades we will get you a nice set of tokico adjustable drag struts then you can see the difference.

Really you can drive my car and see how they compare to the 90/10's.

Beware twin screw will scare you:hyper:

[4Jenna]

And be like everyone else...nah

I have to have a car that never runs and is only a myth

[BurnTire]

And be like everyone else...nah

I have to have a car that never runs and is only a myth

Well get the thing running.

[AZSonicSnake]

think your gonna need to make more time in the day there burntire....

[BurnTire]

think your gonna need to make more time in the day there burntire....

LOL I have all kinds of time. Yes 90/10's or 70/30's can be run on the street with no problems, but Adjustables will have better street manners than a non adjustable.

My car bottomed out once with the struts on 3. Switched to 4 and there are no more issues.

First time at the track on full loose the front end pulled way up then when it came down the rear tires broke loose. After some setting changes the car fully extends the struts and keeps the tires very close to the ground on launch to pull consistent 1.44 60ft times.

If you have a street / strip car I recommend tokico adjustables.

I am not saying that 90/10's or 50/50's are not streetable. I am saying that the adjustables offer more flexibility to the owner.

[Ruckus46gt]

And that light weight single cam motor.:hyper:
dont hate cause you can do more with less:biglaugh:
old outdated pushrod tech.

[BurnTire]

dont hate cause you can do more with less:biglaugh:
old outdated pushrod tech.

Never said a word about hate. :pepper: