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AZSaleen04
06-04-08, 10:03 PM
Hi everyone,
I ran the Saleen on a dyno and was a bit disappointed on the results. As per Rob Wetzel who was a partner at SVC in Scottsdale here are his thoughts:

*The car was driven to the dyno and it was allowed to cool down for 30 minutes. The room temperature was 95 and based on his calculations if the temperature was 60 and the car had been tested with an overnight stay he believes we would have had another 35HP.
*His tune was set for 91 octane and for some reason with high gas prices I decided to try Costco gas and realized half way through it was 89 octane and the car was pinging on that gas. This probably has a small part in all this.

The final numbers turned out to be:
327.30 RWHP at 352.83 Max Torque.
A rough estimate is a 20% loss at the driver train so the engine HP is 393.

Enjoy the videos

AZSaleen04
06-04-08, 10:06 PM
Not sure why the links wouldn't show but here they are:

YouTube - Mustang Saleen 04 Dyno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXwUuso1eUM)

YouTube - Mustang Saleen Dyno Run 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HIJqvR76_c)

AZSonicSnake
06-04-08, 10:15 PM
nice vids man! love the sound of your car. i dunno why you tried to be cheap with a s/c'd car and put 89 in it, but hey, its your car man. ;)

wickedcobra
06-04-08, 10:26 PM
gotta run the 91........thx for sharing the vids. pput 91 in it and do it again..

AZSaleen04
06-04-08, 10:49 PM
AZSonic- I realized it was 89 half way through. I noticed there were two grades so I thought the premium was 91. I was really pissed off once I saw it.

AZSonicSnake
06-04-08, 11:01 PM
yea i bet man!! i woulda be hostile!!! time for some octane booster...

AZSaleen04
06-04-08, 11:20 PM
That's for sure! I'll have to try and burn off 3/4 of a tank tomorrow and get that stuff out of the system!:biglaugh:

Do you think the crapy gas could of made a big difference?

ASUSMC
06-04-08, 11:29 PM
If its detonating at all it will kill the power output and the motor. Just ask me I am on motor 2 in less than a year

AZSonicSnake
06-04-08, 11:47 PM
yeah, it would make a difference in the output. not gonna say a major one, but definetly makes a little bit. did you have him tune it too? because he would not be able to use as much timing on a lower octane...

About2Bite
06-05-08, 03:18 AM
I'd make sure you go to a good gas station too, not some hole in the wall QT or something of that nature. Where was your car dynoed at? SVC closed shop a while ago right?

Throw some 110 octane in there and really see what he can get out of it :biglaugh:

AZSaleen04
06-05-08, 06:25 AM
yes it was tuned about a month ago and tuned for 91.

He said with the bad gas and the heat the timing would be effected.

SVC is gone but Rob has started his own business. He is now working on Dodges as well and is promoted as the only tuner on the westcoast for Dodge. He just completed tuning a Charger with a 7 liter and a blower!

Who sells 110 octane in the Northern Phoenix area?

That is the last time anything less than 91 from Shell is going in.

Would I be able to add an bottle of Octaine booseter to the 3/4 tank that I have now?

Thanks

wickedcobra
06-05-08, 02:39 PM
I would just make sure you go down there with 91 octane so the car will be set up with a good street tune. they can give you a race gas tune based off the 91 octane tune anyways..

AZSonicSnake
06-05-08, 02:45 PM
i know that the gas station at union hills and cc (northwest corner) use to sell some form of race gas, not sure of the octane though as i have never bought gas there...

Gene
06-05-08, 04:12 PM
Just add some 100 unleaded to the mix. Also, is Rob still working out of the old shop? I heard they changed hands, just didn't know if they moved.

Venomous Bite
06-05-08, 04:17 PM
Well what kind of power would you be happy with?

AZSaleen04
06-05-08, 04:23 PM
Rob has built a garage on his home property and is working out of there. I trust him with anything! He is a mastermind with his equations!

Thanks everyone for the advise.

I was hoping for 425-450 at the engine without NOS. When I return I will be replacing the 3.23 with 3.73 and Rob will built a custom intake with K&N. The grears will help with the drivability.

Gene
06-05-08, 10:15 PM
Rob has built a garage on his home property and is working out of there. I trust him with anything! He is a mastermind with his equations!

Good for him. It's not the first shop in town that's built on a residential property.

96 myst
06-07-08, 08:21 AM
The Valera at Union hills and Cave Creek has 100 octane for $6.75 a gallon. Was there thursday.

AZSaleen04
06-07-08, 11:03 AM
wow $6.75... maybe I could get a gallon and mix it with the 91 octane gas.

Bandit
06-07-08, 12:40 PM
My 2 cents... :twothumbsup:

#1: Get a good "street tune" with the octane you will be putting in the car "all" the time, octane is your friend.

#2: HP = $$$

#3: A safe tune is the best tune . Don't ask me how I know...

Nice car!!!

:thmbsup:

makeithook
06-07-08, 12:58 PM
Does costco even sell 89?? the costco's in california only sell 87 or 91... and if that the case you might have pumped in 87!!!:jaw-dropping:

AZSonicSnake
06-07-08, 02:43 PM
you have a good point there...i did not think about that. but the costco here at cave creek and beardsley only sells two flavors too...and i am fairly sure its 87 and 91...yikes!!

chewbaccajones
06-15-08, 06:20 PM
I'd stay out of the boost while you have the 89 in there and it is this hot. Also, don't these cars have a 15% driveline loss when running a manual tranny?