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OH3MGSVT
03-12-08, 12:28 AM
http://thumbs.streetfire.net/be28f8e7-9d2a-4ddf-bd8c-2f2b2770b52d.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/470-rwhp-VT-stroker-na-Mach-and-my-first-10-sec-p_40389.htm)470 rwhp VT stroker n/a Mach

WildBill
03-12-08, 09:18 AM
Dang! That's pretty sad. I went 11.69@115 N/A on my street tune with my Stock engine and transmission in my Mach1.

I don't know of any Mach1 making 470 RWHP with just a stroker N/A

Note his 122mph trap

Dan
03-12-08, 09:50 AM
bwahahaha

Ruckus46gt
03-12-08, 12:38 PM
Dang! That's pretty sad. I went 11.69@115 N/A on my street tune with my Stock engine and transmission in my Mach1.

I don't know of any Mach1 making 470 RWHP with just a stroker N/A

Note his 122mph trap
i cant get the video but can tell from that pic that thats preston against james friends with both. Both cars are currently in the 9's just for the heads up and that was a 470 rwhp car and that was the old mans(over 60years old) first trip out with the car taking it easy. Car was full weight with a vt324 n/a at the time after two motors breaking from vt he had it rebuilt by a local shop and currently has twins on the car
mach currently:
http://j.mustangcars.com/J/stang/svtsnake/atco-10-15-07/9.73-143-James.wmv

here is one of the videos before last time out of the camaro..running 10.2 @143 +
http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m139/SSmokin/Thursdaydyno/NSSW%204-30-07/NSSW5-14-07ATCO/?action=view&current=MOV01C.flv
car had issues with the tune he figured it out next time out cant find the video but here is the improved launch



http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb160/Z28NY/Preston/IMG_1324.jpg

oh and the mach
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/Madeulook23/IMGP0709.jpg

Ruckus46gt
03-12-08, 04:36 PM
oh and prestons wife launching her 3k stalled ss a 11.6 n/a run...yes pulling on 17" nittos
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb160/Z28NY/Atco%20Oct%2029%202007/IMG_0091.jpg

OH3MGSVT
03-12-08, 04:37 PM
all those cars are badass. I love the mach though, looks amazing. Hoping to eventually have one to pull the tires like that....just like Jay is almost doing

OH3MGSVT
03-13-08, 05:57 PM
Dang! That's pretty sad. I went 11.69@115 N/A on my street tune with my Stock engine and transmission in my Mach1.

I don't know of any Mach1 making 470 RWHP with just a stroker N/A

Note his 122mph trap

Yeah but how much spray?

Venomous Bite
03-13-08, 06:10 PM
Yeah but how much spray?
N/A generally means naturally aspirated that means no power adders which nitrous is considered. I know some people don't count nitrous but for the rest of use that aren't super street hustlers we count it as a power adder have a nice day.

Ruckus46gt
03-13-08, 06:41 PM
n/a nitrous assisted

WildBill
03-14-08, 12:01 AM
n/a nitrous assisted
No Nitrous on that 11.69 run catfish boy!!

OH3MGSVT
03-14-08, 12:06 AM
I find it hard to believe you ran a 11.69 Naturally aspirated on stock motor and tranny, damn maybe machs are more under rated then I thought lol

IMSHAKN
03-14-08, 12:56 AM
I find it hard to believe you ran a 11.69 Naturally aspirated on stock motor and tranny, damn maybe machs are more under rated then I thought lol

Actually, there are people running times faster than that on stock motors...albeit the cars can probably be mistaken for some http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/bdx/bdx125/swiss-cheese-~-bxp27929.jpg

WildBill
03-14-08, 07:35 AM
I find it hard to believe you ran a 11.69 Naturally aspirated on stock motor and tranny, damn maybe machs are more under rated then I thought lol

That thought process has won me many heads up races!:biglaugh:

I ran that 11.69 in Jan 05 and no stock longblock and stock tranny Mach1 has beaten it. It's taken a face plated tranny to beat it. I changed tires and drove it home 150 miles, when the folks that were with me broke their rear and they used my truck and trailer to get it to the shop.............and I found out Monday that I had my damn street tune in the car when I made that record.
10.98 was the best on a 125 shot.........still on a stock longblock..........NOT LS1 stock either!!:laughing::laughing:

Ruckus46gt
03-14-08, 09:17 AM
yea thing is what does your car weight? My friends vert 2v runs 12.0, but it is lighter then my little coupe was. My friends 99 ss went 11.6@115.4 with bolt ons, and 3350 raceweight. There are ls1's running bolt ons in the 10's. Friends 99 with heads and cam runs 10.6. My guess is bill your car is around 2900-2950 before driver, which would mean kmember, alum driveshaft, alum flywheel, slicks, skinnies, dumps, etc

WildBill
03-14-08, 11:12 AM
yea thing is what does your car weight? My friends vert 2v runs 12.0, but it is lighter then my little coupe was. My friends 99 ss went 11.6@115.4 with bolt ons, and 3350 raceweight. There are ls1's running bolt ons in the 10's. Friends 99 with heads and cam runs 10.6. My guess is bill your car is around 2900-2950 before driver, which would mean kmember, alum driveshaft, alum flywheel, slicks, skinnies, dumps, etc

Hey Brudda! You sharing da kine pakalolo??:icon_cool:

My car was 3440 raceweight when I ran that time.:flamegun:

Ruckus46gt
03-14-08, 11:50 AM
how much power is your car making and are you in az?

BurnTire
03-14-08, 11:59 AM
how much power is your car making and are you in az?

1 Million

http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/imageSnag/Dr_Evil.jpg

WildBill
03-14-08, 12:00 PM
how much power is your car making and are you in az?
Three weeks before that run it made 297 HP on a dyno in Ga......but that was with slicks.:biglaugh:


I'm in PHX now, building my turbo terror at Performance Solutions.
She'll be running 8's when she's finished.:icon_cool:

WildBill
03-14-08, 12:01 PM
Louise will make Jeff's white ghost look S U P E R S L O W!

BurnTire
03-14-08, 12:06 PM
Louise will make Jeff's white ghost look S U P E R S L O W!

LOL slow is good. Image if I went 8's the car would probably break in half with my luck.

WildBill
03-14-08, 12:19 PM
LOL slow is good. Image if I went 8's the car would probably break in half with my luck.

LOL!!! Prolly so!!

Ruckus46gt
03-14-08, 01:10 PM
so with 300 hp on slicks you went 11.6@115 with a 3440 race weight? I think your bottle might have been opened a little and you didnt realize it. My 2v pulled 298/312 on slicks, and on a -500 da and a 3300 raceweight pulled 109 through the traps only. On a 800-1000 da day at 3250 raceweight it would trap 108 through the traps. My buddy's 12.0 vert pulls over 330 to the tire and weights 3200 and he traps 110-111 through the traps. My 3600lbish ls1 with just over 410 rwhp traps 117-118, and friend 3350 ls1 with 345 rwhp trapped 115-116. Something doesnt add up

93mustank
03-14-08, 01:17 PM
I ran that 11.69 in Jan 05 and no stock longblock and stock tranny Mach1 has beaten it.
What bolt ons did you have? Weight reduction?

WildBill
03-14-08, 01:47 PM
so with 300 hp on slicks you went 11.6@115 with a 3440 race weight? I think your bottle might have been opened a little and you didnt realize it. My 2v pulled 298/312 on slicks, and on a -500 da and a 3300 raceweight pulled 109 through the traps only. On a 800-1000 da day at 3250 raceweight it would trap 108 through the traps. My buddy's 12.0 vert pulls over 330 to the tire and weights 3200 and he traps 110-111 through the traps. My 3600lbish ls1 with just over 410 rwhp traps 117-118, and friend 3350 ls1 with 345 rwhp trapped 115-116. Something doesnt add up


Dude!
To be perfectly honest with you sir, I don't give a flying "F" what your "friend" done in his damn catfish!:laughing::laughing:
I didn't have nitrous on the car until mid-season '05 FunFord Weekend, while running ALL the ModMotor series...............actually made enough $$$ racing to pay for everything that year.

I drive, tune my own engine and dial my own suspension.

I'm sorry sir that you can't understand all that. I'll be at Fire Bird tonight, dialing the suspension of a guy's Mach1. If you want to talk, I'll be there answer any of your questions.

Food for fodder:
http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28941&highlight=King

ASUSMC
03-14-08, 02:11 PM
I agree with Ruckus. The numbers just don't add up. That heavy of a car with that power... It just doesn't add up.

WildBill
03-14-08, 02:23 PM
I agree with Ruckus. The numbers just don't add up. That heavy of a car with that power... It just doesn't add up.

Ya understand what slicks do to dyno figures?
Follow that link.
I have no reason to lie.

ASUSMC
03-14-08, 02:43 PM
I do understand what slicks do to dyno numbers. I also know what dynos do to slicks. They didn't happen to be the same slicks did they?

WildBill
03-14-08, 02:50 PM
I do understand what slicks do to dyno numbers. I also know what dynos do to slicks. They didn't happen to be the same slicks did they?
LOL!!!
I dunno.....it was only 3 weeks apart.....best 60ft was 1.50, but only 1.54 on that run.

BurnTire
03-14-08, 03:34 PM
Sounds like WildBill is being called out as a Bull Sheter :biglaugh:

WildBill
03-14-08, 04:23 PM
Sounds like WildBill is being called out as a Bull Sheter :biglaugh:

Naaaaa.............it's justa kid that can't face FACT that I can tune, race and dial a suspension better than he or his "friends" even with the facts in front of him!:laughing::laughing:................and the fact that I was doing this well before he was a twinkle in his pappy's eye. :icon_cool:

BurnTire
03-14-08, 04:41 PM
I was in the calculators and it is not too unreasonable that you could hit those ET's and Speeds. Dyno numbers are dyno numbers and can vary based on many factors. In my book ET counts.

93mustank
03-14-08, 04:52 PM
Any answer to my question?

WildBill
03-14-08, 06:12 PM
Any answer to my question?
Follow the link please sir.

WildBill
03-14-08, 06:12 PM
I was in the calculators and it is not too unreasonable that you could hit those ET's and Speeds. Dyno numbers are dyno numbers and can vary based on many factors. In my book ET counts.



Psssssst..............Can you say mineshaft day?:biglaugh:

BurnTire
03-14-08, 06:23 PM
18,000 Post. You have some work to do around here.

IMSHAKN
03-14-08, 06:35 PM
I don't think Bill is BS'ing any of you fools on his ET. And believe me, you KNOW there was no nitrous on that car at the time because I believe that was about the time that Bill said he'd never use nitrous. I'm going from memory here so I could be wrong. But hey, you've got 18k worth of his posts at the Reg that you can skim through if you want. :laughing:

WildBill
03-15-08, 01:38 AM
18,000 Post. You have some work to do around here.
Yep.................I'm willing to help those that need it!:icon_cool:



You missed out at FireBird tonight! Everyone from the PSR crew got new personal bests!!

WildBill
03-15-08, 01:44 AM
I don't think Bill is BS'ing any of you fools on his ET. And believe me, you KNOW there was no nitrous on that car at the time because I believe that was about the time that Bill said he'd never use nitrous. I'm going from memory here so I could be wrong. But hey, you've got 18k worth of his posts at the Reg that you can skim through if you want. :laughing:

You are correct. The first time I had nitrous on Louise was at the 2nd Texas Mach1/Bullit Shootout. I won the Quickest Any Thing Goes Class for the Mach1 side.:icon_cool:
Here's a launch from that day.:icon_cool:

http://www.mach1registry.org/photopost/data/9060/114launch.jpg

BurnTire
03-15-08, 01:48 AM
Yep.................I'm willing to help those that need it!:icon_cool:



You missed out at FireBird tonight! Everyone from the PSR crew got new personal bests!!


I am not taking my POS out until the Copperstate and Jennabears shows are done. I had enough carnage for the year.

IMSHAKN
03-15-08, 01:49 AM
So I'm not going crazy after all. I guess my full time job of cracking jokes about the colonel has some use after all. :sticktonge:

IMSHAKN
03-15-08, 01:50 AM
I am not taking my POS out until the Copperstate and Jennabears shows are done. I had enough carnage for the year.

Pantene, at the rate you are going this year, there is only one things left...:redface:

BurnTire
03-15-08, 01:50 AM
You are correct. The first time I had nitrous on Louise was at the 2nd Texas Mach1/Bullit Shootout. I won the Quickest Any Thing Goes Class for the Mach1 side.:icon_cool:
Here's a launch from that day.:icon_cool:

http://www.mach1registry.org/photopost/data/9060/114launch.jpg

What the heck is that starter doing :biglaugh:

BurnTire
03-15-08, 01:52 AM
Pantene, at the rate you are going this year, there is only one things left...:redface:

Motor is doing fine!

IMSHAKN
03-15-08, 01:54 AM
Just saying...you've effectively eliminated a number of your problems. There's only one more major thing to go KABOOM. Then you could rename yourself bentmotor.


*Only kidding, that's not something I'd like to see happen. That would be pretty shitty.

BurnTire
03-15-08, 01:56 AM
Just saying...you've effectively eliminated a number of your problems. There's only one more major thing to go KABOOM. Then you could rename yourself bentmotor.


*Only kidding, that's not something I'd like to see happen. That would be pretty shitty.

LOL. It will hold up with that custom burntire tune.

IMSHAKN
03-15-08, 01:58 AM
Yeah, but all of that burntire work has ended in some slight setbacks as of late...

BurnTire
03-15-08, 02:00 AM
Yeah, but all of that burntire work has ended in some slight setbacks as of late...

No work. Just installing parts. I have a ton of hours into the tune. I am obsessed with perfection on the tune.

IMSHAKN
03-15-08, 02:06 AM
Nice.

Ruckus46gt
03-15-08, 02:47 AM
you might have run a 11.69 but not at that mph end of story. There is no way a 300 rwhp 3440lb car trapped 115 end of story. Slicks on a dyno are good for maybe 10rwhp. Where are the other 30-40rwhp ? The examples were there to show you about what hp is needed for what et's. i dont know how to dial in suspensions its overrated. shit your n/a mach mph is the same as torched's mach on a 100 shot .

WildBill
03-15-08, 08:48 AM
you might have run a 11.69 but not at that mph end of story. There is no way a 300 rwhp 3440lb car trapped 115 end of story. Slicks on a dyno are good for maybe 10rwhp. Where are the other 30-40rwhp ? The examples were there to show you about what hp is needed for what et's. i dont know how to dial in suspensions its overrated. shit your n/a mach mph is the same as torched's mach on a 100 shot .

I know you're young and not very experienced in this world and the world of drag racing, but I'm gonna hold a little short course and try to boost your level of education.
First off, if you only learn one thing from this thread, let this fact burn into your young brain:
DYNOS ARE ONLY A TUNING TOOL!
YOU DO NOT RACE ON A DYNO!
Read that several times so that it sinks in.

I know that the youth of today tend not to look beyond what's directly in front of them. You need to develop your your powers of observation, deduction and reasoning. If you had followed that link and noted the time of year the run was made, you could have figured out the time of year the "297 dyno run" was performed. In order to lend some sort of continuity and comparability to dyno figures, there are correction factors. The vast majority of people post SAE figures. This is what I posted. If you had looked past the web page and noted the time of year, your young brain should have instantly realized that the dyno figures will be corrected DOWN due to the cold dry air of December. This would mean that ACTUAL HP FIGURES are quite a bit higher.
In a reply to Jeff, I used the term "mineshaft day". This refers to the the quality of the air. This should have rang a little bell in your head and made the gears start to spin quite rapidly. Many records are set on days such as these. Back in the day of carburetors , you'd have to go up quite a few jet sizes to compensate for the increased quality of air.
What it all boils down to, is that on days with mineshaft air, your engine will produce more ACTUAL horsepower AND YOUR CAR WILL RUN A QUICKER ET, if the track will hook or you can adjust your launch to the colder track conditions.
Like I said in an earlier post, always feel free to come up to me at the track. Unless I'm deep into competition, I'll be glad to try and answer any of your questions or to help you out if I can.

I'll see ya later. I'm gonna go work on my Sullivan intake so I can finally install it on my engine Monday. Have a great day!!!!!:twothumbsup:

Ruckus46gt
03-15-08, 09:42 AM
lol i'm not from az i know about air quality. i know the diff in et's from a neg da da to a post da day. I know the diff between a correction from a winter dyno pull to a middle of the summer dyno pull and its not that diff. I can post time diff between neg 500 da's and positive 1000+ da's and well its only a couple mph not 5 or 6 its 1 or 2. Now let me teach an old dog a new trick..you do realize that it takes more then 1 rwhp to raise your speed by 1 rwhp. only thing i'll agree with you on is a dyno is more for tuning purpose but it does allow for a range and est of what a car should run. I say a range because old man there are other factors a senile old man might not knowif its called traction and weight. The key factor is your power to weight ratio. Also did you know that a dyno correction factor compensates for weather and give you "The actual HP figures"yes they are still a little off but again not 50+ rwhp like your et states. What are you going to tell me next elevation and da's dont have an effect on your et

WildBill
03-15-08, 09:53 AM
lol i'm not from az i know about air quality. i know the diff in et's from a neg da da to a post da day. I know the diff between a correction from a winter dyno pull to a middle of the summer dyno pull and its not that diff. I can post time diff between neg 500 da's and positive 1000+ da's and well its only a couple mph not 5 or 6 its 1 or 2. Now let me teach an old dog a new trick..you do realize that it takes more then 1 rwhp to raise your speed by 1 rwhp. only thing i'll agree with you on is a dyno is more for tuning purpose but it does allow for a range and est of what a car should run. I say a range because old man there are other factors a senile old man might not knowif its called traction and weight. The key factor is your power to weight ratio. Also did you know that a dyno correction factor compensates for weather and give you "The actual HP figures"yes they are still a little off but again not 50+ rwhp like your et states. What are you going to tell me next elevation and da's dont have an effect on your et
I guess there's no hope for you.

Little man
You'll NEVER know as much about cars and there's nothing that YOU could ever teach me.
Here's an old military saying that's very appropriate for you when it comes to cars and racing.
"STAY IN YOUR OWN PAYGRADE, SON!":flamegun:

4Jenna
03-15-08, 10:48 AM
<---------- sits back and gets popcorn out.

WildBill
03-15-08, 10:55 AM
<---------- sits back and gets popcorn out.

Where have you been? You should at least be on your second bag!:laughing::laughing:

BurnTire
03-15-08, 11:18 AM
Lets See 3440 and 115 Trap
http://www.highperformancestangs.com/calc/14.php

408 Flywheel HP
18% Drive Train Loss
334 RWHP

You could very easily have a correction factor that would allow close to 334 RWHP.

WildBill
03-15-08, 12:30 PM
Lets See 3440 and 115 Trap
http://www.highperformancestangs.com/calc/14.php

408 Flywheel HP
18% Drive Train Loss
334 RWHP

You could very easily have a correction factor that would allow close to 334 RWHP.

Yep............18% is just a bit high for a 3650, but close enough for argument sake.
Another twist to the mix was my 4:11 gears.:icon_cool:

For Mr. DynoRacerRuckus:
Short gears tend to lower HP figures ON THE DYNO.:hi:

OH3MGSVT
03-15-08, 12:45 PM
Well check out this video of these 2 Machs....might help explain more as to power to weight ratio...

5119689176698847369

BurnTire
03-15-08, 01:12 PM
Yep............18% is just a bit high for a 3650, but close enough for argument sake.
Another twist to the mix was my 4:11 gears.:icon_cool:

For Mr. DynoRacerRuckus:
Short gears tend to lower HP figures ON THE DYNO.:hi:

Whats a dyno? :biglaugh:

Ruckus46gt
03-15-08, 02:08 PM
Yep............18% is just a bit high for a 3650, but close enough for argument sake.
Another twist to the mix was my 4:11 gears.:icon_cool:

For Mr. DynoRacerRuckus:
Short gears tend to lower HP figures ON THE DYNO.:hi:
dude you dont even know me and your calling me a dyno queen. Ask Eades he knows how my car runs. I'm not big on dyno just on facts. Fact is your full of shit end of story. You might have the slip but its an error either on the towers part putting in thewrong number, your looking at the long wrong lane...do you know your left from your right?,or the sensors were off. Must be nice having a chevy rear in your car since your running 4.11's:bounce:. I ran 4.10s but they were to small for a 2v bumped up to 4.30s. That twist is et and 60' not mph if anything that actually would go down. I wish i was god and could dial in my suspension like you i knownothing about it my cars spin all over the place

OH3MGSVT
03-15-08, 02:15 PM
dude you dont even know me and your calling me a dyno queen. Ask Eades he knows how my car runs. I'm not big on dyno just on facts. Fact is your full of shit end of story. You might have the slip but its an error either on the towers part putting in thewrong number, your looking at the long wrong lane...do you know your left from your right?,or the sensors were off. Must be nice having a chevy rear in your car since your running 4.11's:bounce:. I ran 4.10s but they were to small for a 2v bumped up to 4.30s. That twist is et and 60' not mph if anything that actually would go down. I wish i was god and could dial in my suspension like you i knownothing about it my cars spin all over the place

:hyper: :rofl:

Ruckus46gt
03-15-08, 02:15 PM
Well check out this video of these 2 Machs....might help explain more as to power to weight ratio...

5119689176698847369
you notice how wild bill traps another 2mph on that car and well you seen the pics of that car, kmember, 1 seat racing seat, no carpet, no stereo, fiberglass hood, etc

OH3MGSVT
03-15-08, 03:05 PM
Yeah I know thats what im confused about, that guy is completely gutted and has EVERY BOLT ON and only runs an 11.9 at 113 and you can't say he didn't launch good lol

BurnTire
03-15-08, 03:07 PM
Lou Sonic03snake

3600lb race weight

6 speed

Ported Eaton

508 RWHP SAE

10.55 @ 130

What do you think Ruck? B.S?

WildBill
03-15-08, 03:30 PM
dude you dont even know me and your calling me a dyno queen. Ask Eades he knows how my car runs. I'm not big on dyno just on facts. Fact is your full of shit end of story. You might have the slip but its an error either on the towers part putting in thewrong number, your looking at the long wrong lane...do you know your left from your right?,or the sensors were off. Must be nice having a chevy rear in your car since your running 4.11's:bounce:. I ran 4.10s but they were to small for a 2v bumped up to 4.30s. That twist is et and 60' not mph if anything that actually would go down. I wish i was god and could dial in my suspension like you i knownothing about it my cars spin all over the place

Showing your ignorance again little man?:laughing:
Chevy rear?:laughing::laughing:
http://www.mach1registry.org/photopost/data/9060/114currie02.jpg

I never called you a dyno queen, but the title fits!:yes:

At least I know how to make my nitrous work properly AND all the way down the track.

BurnTire
03-15-08, 03:34 PM
Bill that 9" made you faster being it is so light :bounce:

Ruckus46gt
03-15-08, 03:34 PM
Showing your ignorance again little man?:laughing:
Chevy rear?:laughing::laughing:
http://www.mach1registry.org/photopost/data/9060/114currie02.jpg

I never called you a dyno queen, but the title fits!:yes:

At least I know how to make my nitrous work properly AND all the way down the track.
lol my bottle was defective and so is my window switch been talking to trick the past week and they've had me wiring in lights. Oh yea word of advice its ok to talk out of rank just gotta make sure your right.

OH3MGSVT
03-15-08, 03:44 PM
Lou Sonic03snake

3600lb race weight

6 speed

Ported Eaton

508 RWHP SAE

10.55 @ 130

What do you think Ruck? B.S?

nvm.

BurnTire
03-15-08, 03:46 PM
nvm.

Can you put that in english?

BurnTire
03-15-08, 03:47 PM
Look at this B.S. 10.6 on 347RWHP. LOL

http://www.highperformancestangs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4332

OH3MGSVT
03-15-08, 03:54 PM
I meant nevermind lol.

OH3MGSVT
03-15-08, 03:56 PM
Look at this B.S. 10.6 on 347RWHP. LOL

http://www.highperformancestangs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4332

Power to weight ratio is a beautiful thing. I think thats the main reason people are calling BS to wildbill since he is full weight.

BurnTire
03-15-08, 04:05 PM
Power to weight ratio is a beautiful thing. I think thats the main reason people are calling BS to wildbill since he is full weight.

2900 and 347RWHP is not a great power to weight ratio.

Go to the calculator page and learn.

BurnTire
03-15-08, 04:07 PM
I meant nevermind lol.

Well what does that mean? You calling BS on Lou?
I mean it was recorded at a national NMRA event. Must have been a clock error being all the other runs were 10.60's :bounce:

OH3MGSVT
03-15-08, 04:17 PM
2900 and 347RWHP is not a great power to weight ratio.

Go to the calculator page and learn.

Wow are you serious? I think thats better than most cars out there. Given the power to weight that is an AMAZING time. I don't need a calculator to tell me that

OH3MGSVT
03-15-08, 04:18 PM
Well what does that mean? You calling BS on Lou?
I mean it was recorded at a national NMRA event. Must have been a clock error being all the other runs were 10.60's :bounce:

No I wasn't calling BS on Lou I know what he ran and what not. I was just gonna say its a little different with a Power adder then an N/A car

BurnTire
03-15-08, 04:40 PM
Wow are you serious? I think thats better than most cars out there. Given the power to weight that is an AMAZING time. I don't need a calculator to tell me that

I am not trying to be a smart a-ss, but that car hauls ass for the power it has. Is just shows how much you can get out of a car when the setup is perfect.

Wild Bill's numbers are not far fetched if the air, track, setup, run, wind, etc are perfect.

OH3MGSVT
03-15-08, 04:50 PM
I am not trying to be a smart a-ss, but that car hauls ass for the power it has. Is just shows how much you can get out of a car when the setup is perfect.

Wild Bill's numbers are not far fetched if the air, track, setup, run, wind, etc are perfect.

Yeah that is very true, my buddy has a H/C/I Notchback with 3.73's running 12.3s at 111. that thing hauls mail for what little is done to it, not even suspension. but yeah I love cars that dont put up very big HP numbers but kill cars with a lot more power at the track :3gears: or like you where you have the best of both worlds lol.

P.S. A little off topic, but are they having the car show at the Pavs tonight? I heard they weren't having it because of some big show down in Mesa

WildBill
03-15-08, 04:55 PM
lol my bottle was defective and so is my window switch been talking to trick the past week and they've had me wiring in lights. Oh yea word of advice its ok to talk out of rank just gotta make sure your right.

HUH???????????
How in the hell can a damn BOTTLE be defective?????:rollingfloorrlol:
The only way YOUR bottle could be defective is if you filled it with whatever the hell you've been smoking or YOU forgot to OPEN the bottle!:pointlaff:


Btw...........The General will be getting a call from my bud in the Pentagon. With the silly crap you've been posting here, I'm sure you're gonna be required to donate to "Operation Golden Flow"!

BurnTire
03-15-08, 04:56 PM
I am heading down to Mesa in a few.

Mustangs will be a Berge.

Brown then South on Mesa Ave.

WildBill
03-15-08, 05:02 PM
I am not trying to be a smart a-ss, but that car hauls ass for the power it has. Is just shows how much you can get out of a car when the setup is perfect.

Wild Bill's numbers are not far fetched if the air, track, setup, run, wind, etc are perfect.

Exactly why I drove over 200 miles to this track! I KNEW that it was gonna be a day to remember. There were 10 cars in my group and everysingle one of them got a new best.
There was the best DA that I had ever seen.........PERIOD!

ahawkins (http://www.highperformancestangs.com/forums/member.php?u=249)
You must not know what Mach1 weigh or understand the term "Race weight".

OH3MGSVT
03-15-08, 05:11 PM
I actually know both, thanks though :hi:

OH3MGSVT
03-15-08, 05:20 PM
Based on those calculators, your "race weight" of 3440 and given 430 flywheel hp that equates to a 11.65...yes I know about dyno numbers and elevation and all that mumbo jumbo just seems weird too me...but hell what do I know, maybe you had just a good ass day that day

Ruckus46gt
03-15-08, 05:26 PM
HUH???????????
How in the hell can a damn BOTTLE be defective?????:rollingfloorrlol:
The only way YOUR bottle could be defective is if you filled it with whatever the hell you've been smoking or YOU forgot to OPEN the bottle!:pointlaff:


Btw...........The General will be getting a call from my bud in the Pentagon. With the silly crap you've been posting here, I'm sure you're gonna be required to donate to "Operation Golden Flow"!
from the compnay directly:
There is a blockage on the valve, we are shipping your bottle out today. We apologize for the inconvenience.

hum yea how can a bottle be defective there are parts to a bottle. Does anyone know why i cant run a mild steel cage in the 10's why does it have to be chromoly only.......:biglaugh:. Tell your friend to call me i'll patch him into the general.

WildBill
03-15-08, 07:42 PM
from the compnay directly:
There is a blockage on the valve, we are shipping your bottle out today. We apologize for the inconvenience.

hum yea how can a bottle be defective there are parts to a bottle. Does anyone know why i cant run a mild steel cage in the 10's why does it have to be chromoly only.......:biglaugh:. Tell your friend to call me i'll patch him into the general.
Blockage ON the valve?

Ahhhhhh................that explains a
lot..................you're a secretary.:laughing::laughing::laughing:

BurnTire
03-15-08, 09:11 PM
Does anyone know why i cant run a mild steel cage in the 10's why does it have to be chromoly only.......:biglaugh:. Tell your friend to call me i'll patch him into the general.

Damn all those 7 second SSO cars are illegal with those steel cages :biglaugh:

WildBill
03-15-08, 09:50 PM
Damn all those 7 second SSO cars are illegal with those steel cages :biglaugh:
I told you that George Klass told me that!:lookitup:

BurnTire
03-15-08, 10:51 PM
I told you that George Klass told me that!:lookitup:

You didn't tell me anything, but there is no difference between mild steel and chromoly when it comes to ET requirements under NHRA rules for 2008. Either material can be used as long as welding and tube diameter restrictions are followed.

4Jenna
03-20-08, 09:52 PM
You didn't tell me anything, but there is no difference between mild steel and chromoly when it comes to ET requirements under NHRA rules for 2008. Either material can be used as long as welding and tube diameter restrictions are followed.

Nuh-uh

BurnTire
03-20-08, 09:53 PM
Nuh-uh

I speak the truth:bounce:

4Jenna
03-20-08, 10:03 PM
I speak the truth:bounce:

Nope, only George Klass does :yes:

BurnTire
03-20-08, 10:09 PM
Reading is Fundamental

4Jenna
03-20-08, 10:18 PM
Washing with Pantene Pro-V Fundamental

:perfect10:

IMSHAKN
03-20-08, 11:13 PM
:perfect10:

:laughing: