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BurnTire
09-12-07, 01:51 PM
Wheel I am taking the plunge.
My Street/Strip Car is Turning into a Strip/Street Car. LOL
Here is my setup from DTS Custom
1994-1998 spec 8.8 Housing with welded tubes.
9" Ends
GT Brake Brackets for 9" ends
31 Spline True Trac
31 Spline Moser Axles w/ 3" studs
3:73 Gears
Solid Pinion Shim
Cobra Pinion Flange
APR main cap studs
T/A rear cover.
No I have to decided on all the other misc stuff that goes with the swap.
Viper_ed
09-12-07, 02:02 PM
Here's a Rear Disc setup that you can run with those 9" housing ends. It also still incorporates the emergency brake. It's the same kit I went with for my 88 and it only cost me $385. That's about $425 cheaper than what a Aerospace, Willwood, etc. setup will cost you.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=1790
BurnTire
09-12-07, 02:03 PM
Not required. North Race Cars now makes a bracket that allows you to use GT/Cobra calipers with GT rotors and clear 9" ends.
Viper_ed
09-12-07, 02:06 PM
Well, these were $99 shipped to me from snoopstang on turbomustangs.com. He sells them and also posts on numerous sites under the same name.
BTW, you should of just had Rodeheaver's build you a rear. He did mine for under $1,700, which included the brakes.
BurnTire
09-12-07, 02:08 PM
Cool, but will the exhaust clear those?
I may go with the CHE brace.
Then again many people are running no brace with no problems.
Viper_ed
09-12-07, 02:10 PM
Cool, but will the exhaust clear those?
I may go with the CHE brace.
Then again many people are running no brace with no problems.
From what I have read, yes. I'm not running tailpipes though, hell, I'm not even running a muffler. My 3-1/2" downpipe is just going to dump just behind the front passenger tire.
I also just saw in MM&FF I think a company that came out with an under axle brace setup.
BurnTire
09-12-07, 02:13 PM
I have a strange feeling I am going to need an anti roll bar. LOL
Viper_ed
09-12-07, 02:14 PM
I have a strange feeling I am going to need an anti roll bar. LOL
Then you can kiss your tailpipes goodbye unless you have them upgrade your housing to a Chris Alston Chassis Works one that runs the anti-roll bar under the axle.
BurnTire
09-12-07, 02:18 PM
Miller Race Cars has on that works with stock pipes.
I believe Steeda has one also that mounts under.
http://www.millerracecars.net/antiroll.html
Viper_ed
09-12-07, 02:26 PM
Lou has a Steeda on his and I know he can't run tailpipes with it. They may of come out with a newer one since he put his on though.
BurnTire
09-12-07, 02:27 PM
Yes they do have a new one.
Lou isn't happy with his setup.
BurnTire
09-12-07, 02:29 PM
http://www.steeda.com/products/hardcore_anti_roll_bar_79-04.php
Viper_ed
09-12-07, 02:39 PM
Lou isn't happy with his setup.
The onlything I know of as to why he wants to change it is so he can put tailpipes back on the car.
BurnTire
09-12-07, 02:49 PM
Oh yea you forgot the turbo he wants.
Viper_ed
09-12-07, 03:11 PM
Oh yea you forgot the turbo he wants.
I think the Box Trailer and Diesel Dully will be 1st though!
BurnTire
09-12-07, 03:23 PM
I think the Box Trailer and Diesel Dully will be 1st though!
Must be nice to be floating in all that cash like Lou:bouncy:
Must be nice to be floating in all that cash like you:bouncy:
LOL!
AZSonicSnake
09-12-07, 07:38 PM
bout time.
i know i want an anti-roll bar. i wish i could remember which one it was, but i remember there being one you can use on the street. so far as my suspension goes, thats one of the last things i need.....:biglaugh:
BurnTire
09-12-07, 07:41 PM
bout time.
i know i want an anti-roll bar. i wish i could remember which one it was, but i remember there being one you can use on the street. so far as my suspension goes, thats one of the last things i need.....:biglaugh:
I am going to try the air bag and stagger the shock settings to see if it will go semi straight off the line.
If not then anti roll here I come.
AZSonicSnake
09-12-07, 07:42 PM
in all honesty, mine launchs quite straight, i just want all the goodies. i do know that you have a few more ponies under there though...:woot1:
BurnTire
09-12-07, 07:44 PM
Yea the 6000 RPM Slick launch may twist it a little more. LOL
AZSonicSnake
09-12-07, 08:16 PM
yea...kinda. i hope to get to that point some day....:biglaugh:
Lucafu1
09-12-07, 08:35 PM
Jeff Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
Irs Foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr =(
Clear 3" Tailpipes...I love Baseline Suspension
http://www.baselinesuspensions.com/kits/arb1.htm
BurnTire
09-12-07, 09:27 PM
Jeff Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
Irs Foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr =(
If someone made some halfshafts that are really strong I would keep it. LOL
BurnTire
09-12-07, 09:28 PM
Clear 3" Tailpipes...I love Baseline Suspension
http://www.baselinesuspensions.com/kits/arb1.htm
Looks like a nice setup.
AZSonicSnake
09-12-07, 09:32 PM
Clear 3" Tailpipes...I love Baseline Suspension
http://www.baselinesuspensions.com/kits/arb1.htm
:yes: :twothumbsup::drool5:
i wanty.....
Clear 3" Tailpipes...I love Baseline Suspension
http://www.baselinesuspensions.com/kits/arb1.htm
Thats the one I like too, great for some street/more strip style suspension.:yes:
BurnTire
09-13-07, 05:24 PM
I am leaning towards the Miller Race Car setup.
Hows ground clearance with that one
BurnTire
09-13-07, 07:07 PM
Not sure, but it doesn't look lower than my IRS exhaust.
5.0Stanger
09-13-07, 07:16 PM
If I 'had' to pick, that MRC setup looks good. The anti-roll bar will be much better to control your launch.
Definitely, don't forget to make room for that rear girdle. It blows trying to cave the spare tire well in, after installing the axle.
BurnTire
09-14-07, 01:31 AM
Definitely, don't forget to make room for that rear girdle. It blows trying to cave the spare tire well in, after installing the axle.
Yes I will have to do a little fabricating with a hammer.
BurnTire
09-25-07, 12:29 AM
Pile of parts is getting bigger. I should have everthing by friday.
BurnTire
09-25-07, 12:47 AM
Oh my setup
Steeda Weight Jacker Lowers
Double Adjustable Uppers
01 Bullit Springs
Spherical Housing Bushings
Slotted GT Rotors
Tokico Shocks
LMM Battle Boxes
Miller Race Car Anti Roll Bar.
BurnTire
09-25-07, 06:49 PM
Few things so far.
Spec 5
Tokico Shocks
Yes I will have to do a little fabricating with a hammer.
By shorteneing up both the upper and lower control arms as much as possible after you get everything dialed in, you can minimized the amount of "tweaking" you have to do to the trunk floor. You can pull the entire rear end forward probably about an inch or maybe more. If you adjust all the arms equally, you can maintain the settings of pinion angle and axle offset.
This is one of the plusses of having both UCA & LCAs adjustable.
The air bag should work fine. Mine has been launching pretty straight even at the crappy track near here.
Dan
BurnTire
09-25-07, 10:24 PM
Hey Dan
I went with the Miller Race Car Anti Roll Bar being they don't self destruct on the street.
As far as the trunk I can use the Lou form LMM mustang method. On hard launch and the cover will machine the trunk to specs. LOL
BurnTire
09-25-07, 11:16 PM
I MC Hammered mine
http://thumbnail.search.aolcdn.com/aais/EMI/media/mchammer/0094631039058.jpg
Hey Dan
I went with the Miller Race Car Anti Roll Bar being they don't self destruct on the street.
As far as the trunk I can use the Lou form LMM mustang method. On hard launch and the cover will machine the trunk to specs. LOL
I think I would have waited to see just how good or bad the launch was with the air bad before going with the Miller bar. But it sure will look pretty!!
My trunk was clearanced by using the hard launch method also. I didn't move the rear end forward until after the fact.
Just remember, put LockTite on everything except the caliper mounting bolts.
Dan
BurnTire
09-26-07, 05:12 PM
Santa Arrived.:veryhappy:
The Nunn's
09-26-07, 07:25 PM
Few things so far.
Spec 5
Tokico Shocks
dont u think thats a lil over kill...or are u doing tractor pulls now
BurnTire
09-26-07, 07:26 PM
dont u think thats a lil over kill...or are u doing tractor pull
LOL. I have some big plans:biglaugh:
Some cars don't use auto's to go fast... That rear looks mean now get that thing on there and run that beast.
BurnTire
09-26-07, 07:32 PM
Some cars don't use auto's to go fast... That rear looks mean now get that thing on there and run that beast.
I will be starting next weekend. :bounce:
silver03cobra
09-26-07, 07:44 PM
it took me an hour to get home! Jeff i am charging gas money next time... lol
BTW
parts look great!!!
BurnTire
09-26-07, 08:03 PM
it took me an hour to get home! Jeff i am charging gas money next time... lol
BTW
parts look great!!!
LOL bill me!
silver03cobra
09-26-07, 11:19 PM
ha ha ha ha:pepper:
LOL bill me!
I didnt get an invite ass munch!
Have a link or info to purchase those slotted gt rotors?
BurnTire
09-27-07, 12:05 AM
I didnt get an invite ass munch!
October 7th is install day!
BurnTire
09-27-07, 12:10 AM
Have a link or info to purchase those slotted gt rotors?
http://www.themustangdepot.com/servlet/the-Brakes/Categories
You wont need the anti roll bar until you get the car dead hooked where the Front left wheel is a foot off the ground before the right.
After the anti roll is adjusted and you are leaving straight, the 31 splines will want to be 35.
BurnTire
09-27-07, 01:30 AM
You wont need the anti roll bar until you get the car dead hooked where the Front left wheel is a foot off the ground before the right.
After the anti roll is adjusted and you are leaving straight, the 31 splines will want to be 35.
I was planning to be about 3 feet high. LOL
silver03cobra
09-27-07, 09:40 AM
+/- 10
:laughing1:
Looks like a nice set-up but why didn't you go with a spool?? They're really not that bad on the street.
I could always give a hand if you want. I don't know much but I can pull my own motor and replace it so I can turn a wrench.
Jeff
BurnTire
09-27-07, 11:03 AM
Looks like a nice set-up but why didn't you go with a spool?? They're really not that bad on the street.
I could always give a hand if you want. I don't know much but I can pull my own motor and replace it so I can turn a wrench.
Jeff
No spool for me. True Trac is Tough.
Make sure you do not use any kind of synthetic with the true trac otherwise it will make noise. It will only make noise when you turn sharp but it is annoying as hell and hard to figure out.
Good luck with the install.:twothumbsup:
Jeff
BurnTire
10-08-07, 06:19 PM
All done minus the anti roll bar which I can tell I am going to need.
Ride is not that bad. I have spherical bushings on all points except the forward lowers are delrum. Just cruising around I can't hear anything that bothers me. In a tight turn on an uneven surface or a big dip in the road I hear some a pop sound at times, but I expected that with the hardcore control arm setup.
The steeda weight jackers control arms are the cats meow. The adjustable ride height feature is great.
The battle boxes are from Lou at Laural Mountain Mustang and they went in really easy. You have to open the lower torque box a little other than that just drill away. Oh yea a foot long 3/8" and 1/2" inch drill bit makes the job easy.
Oh yea 1 more thing. There is no more wheel hop.:highfive:
BurnTire
10-08-07, 06:20 PM
IRS is big and heavy.
IRS is big and heavy.
wtf? no weld battle boxes? wheres the link?
BurnTire
10-08-07, 07:38 PM
Send Lou a PM. Sonic03snake.
Or call him at the shop 888-925-7669
http://www.laurelmountainmustang.com/index-1024.htm
5.0Stanger
10-08-07, 09:52 PM
wtf? no weld battle boxes? wheres the link?
I had something similar from Wild Rides. No need to weld them in, but it wouldn't hurt.
Jeff, did you paint those parts silver? You always have to cut the '94-'04 lower torque box openings to get those parts in. Doesn't look like you 'clearanced' the spare tire well. That pop is probably from a slight binding-up of the control arms or just a little movement. Don't get me wrong, the install looks good. Just trying to help. Can't wait to see how it runs.
I had something similar from Wild Rides. No need to weld them in, but it wouldn't hurt.
Jeff, did you paint those parts silver? You always have to cut the '94-'04 lower torque box openings to get those parts in. Doesn't look like you 'clearanced' the spare tire well. That pop is probably from a slight binding-up of the control arms or just a little movement. Don't get me wrong, the install looks good. Just trying to help. Can't wait to see how it runs.
How do you clearance the spare tire well?
5.0Stanger
10-08-07, 10:00 PM
How do you clearance the spare tire well?
If the axle isn't installed in the car, use the good ol' BFH. You can use the same technique, but hitting the axle cover is much more liable to be damaged. If not clearanced, the rear axle girdle will make it's own room.
BurnTire
10-08-07, 10:09 PM
How do you clearance the spare tire well?
I didn't yet. It is pretty flimsy metal so I will just tap it with a ball pien hammer some day. There is still a good bit or room when the car is on jack stands to get in there with a hammer.
If the axle isn't installed in the car, use the good ol' BFH. You can use the same technique, but hitting the axle cover is much more liable to be damaged. If not clearanced, the rear axle girdle will make it's own room.
Oh, you call that clearancing the spare tire well. Now I get it. I took a BFH to it as well when I did mine. Note the mc hammered post lol!
5.0Stanger
10-08-07, 10:38 PM
I didn't yet. It is pretty flimsy metal so I will just tap it with a ball pien hammer some day. There is still a good bit or room when the car is on jack stands to get in there with a hammer.
Good deal. It's better than listening to the rear axle girdle slamming into it. I had that happen on my old Stang. Left a nice impression of the T/A Girdle in the metal. I thought that it might have broken something, but those girdles are tough!
BurnTire
10-09-07, 12:11 AM
Boy these brakes are moaning like a hoe when backing up. I have to see if the anti moan brackets will work with my brake brackets.
Lucafu1
10-09-07, 01:49 AM
Looks good Jeff!
Ethan@S3M
10-09-07, 02:11 AM
+1 on the BFH to the spare tire well. Mine was poping too and I beat the shit out of it and no more pop!
BurnTire
10-09-07, 02:12 AM
+1 on the BFH to the spare tire well. Mine was poping too and I beat the shit out of it and no more pop!
LOL
I heard it today on a big bump.
LOL
I heard it today on a big bump.
General Lee for the win!
Truuble just went through the same stuff. brace and antiroll is a minimum, before you give up and get a 9 inch . . . . .
wickedcobra
10-09-07, 09:37 AM
Looks awesome. Im starting to get excited about getting mine done.
Viper_ed
10-09-07, 10:38 AM
The battle boxes are from Lou at Laural Mountain Mustang and they went in really easy. You have to open the lower torque box a little other than that just drill away. Oh yea a foot long 3/8" and 1/2" inch drill bit makes the job easy.
Get them welded in as well when you get some time.
BurnTire
10-09-07, 12:10 PM
Truuble just went through the same stuff. brace and antiroll is a minimum, before you give up and get a 9 inch . . . . .
LOL now you want me to spend more money on a 9".
Viper_ed
10-09-07, 01:14 PM
LOL now you want me to spend more money on a 9".
And spend you will to get a housing with the correct geometry!
Venomous Bite
10-09-07, 03:04 PM
Gave up on the IRS? What kind of sixties are you looking for with this setup?
BurnTire
10-09-07, 03:06 PM
Be happy with some 1.4s for now.
Be happy with some 1.4s for now.
and the fact that there is no more wheel hop on the street. A+
BurnTire
10-09-07, 05:40 PM
and the fact that there is no more wheel hop on the street. A+
Yes that is a plus. I never really had much hop on the IRS unless it was really cold out.
BurnTire
12-04-07, 10:27 PM
After 2 months of waiting my launch straight anti roll bar has arrived from Miller Race Cars.:twothumbsup:
chewbaccajones
12-04-07, 10:32 PM
Nice. That gonna be on by the 14th?
AZSonicSnake
12-04-07, 10:36 PM
mmm....sexay!!! that looks like some good launchin right thar! :woot1:
BurnTire
12-04-07, 10:49 PM
Nice. That gonna be on by the 14th?
If I can con Devin into a little extra welding on Thursday is will be ready.
Does not look to hard to install maybe 30 minutes with a little welding required.
TorchedMach1
12-04-07, 11:13 PM
Hey save him some time to weld in my Torque boxes before the 14th. :biglaugh:
5.0Stanger
12-05-07, 12:25 AM
Sounds like you guys need welders for Christmas. j/k
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