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Jacostang
12-17-11, 01:36 PM
There is a New President and VP at Copperstate this year. This will be a good thing because they are gear heads! I think they also figured out what good and bad and the one thing is.. Club VS Club does not work and we are all Mustangers!!! I hope we can get everyone together for some cool events! No one club is better than another!!!
Good things to Come!
Congrats to Jeff Minx and Don Cook!
All the best!:bouncy:
05mustangman
12-17-11, 03:43 PM
Very cool! Cant wait to see the good things coming! And yes we need to get ALL of our clubs together for the events and cruises and anything else that might be fun. The more Mustangs together the merrier!
Blackmagic1
12-18-11, 11:00 AM
[QUOTE=Jacostang ,I think they also figured out what good and bad and the one thing is.. Club VS Club does not work and we are all Mustangers!!! I hope we can get everyone together for some cool events! No one club is better than another!! ----------------------UNITED WE DRIVE, DIVIDED WE PARK--------
Rick Shopmier
12-18-11, 11:23 AM
Look forward to CMC moving forward. Here's a thought, try doing what the 5 Colorado Mustang clubs do to put on the Rocky Mountain Mustang Round-up, a "new" Mustang event with each club taking a piece (each club has members that have special talents), do as a weekender in a cool place, invite every Mustang (go national) and call it something like the Arizona Monster Mustang Show:bouncy:!!! Remember the 50th of the Mustang is comming and we should all get in on this.
Jacostang
12-18-11, 12:11 PM
Rick, I have been sayin that since you MADE us go to Steamboat, LOL. With the Mustang clubs we have here in AZ we could do a really cool thing. The X factor is getting some to understand what its really all about.:1cool:
Arizona Mustang Fest? This could happen!
05mustangman
12-18-11, 04:22 PM
Rick that is a fantastic idea! You mentioned somewhere cool, maybe winslow or somewhere that could also have historical significance. I agree that if all clubs come together and we make the show known nationally like to the cali clubs, utah clubs, colorado clubs, new mexico, I think there is no reason we couldnt have a show of the same magnitude of the steamboat springs show.
05mustangman
12-18-11, 05:53 PM
Its a place that alot of people know in az and its right off interstate 40. i was just thinking of someplace that people would have heard of in az. even flag or sedona or prescott would be cool. Plus the show being up north of phoenix could attract people from las vegas and the northern states.
Sedona could be really cool to cause theres a lot of nice scenery up there which a lot of people enjoy. But the only problem there would be, does sedona have enough room to put on a massive car show?
Jacostang
12-18-11, 06:53 PM
Since the Mayor of Prescott met us for the cruise I think Prescott would be a fantastic location! Park all around the court house plus there is a lot to do, a scenic cruise up to Jerome,poker run like steamboat.... The possibilities are great...
05mustangman
12-18-11, 07:17 PM
Thats true i bet the mayor would love to work with us again. That would be a great time!
05mustangman
12-18-11, 08:27 PM
So is this something that we would actually like to persue? If so, either me or Rick could bring it up at the next Wild West meeting and generate some interest.
Rick Shopmier
12-18-11, 08:31 PM
Lets not get the wagon ahead of the horse. It would be great if we could get each club to designate a representative to look into doing the event, remember that no one club could claim ownership of such a venture, it's all or none. Since I had been involved with the Rocky Mountain Mustang Roundup(a very successful model) for many years, I could provide advise to the group of representatives on what it would take to do an event. Let see if the clubs want to do this, make a commitment of resourses and work. Yup, Prescott would sound good, its neutral ground!
Jacostang
12-19-11, 07:41 PM
I think we would have to start with a e mail to all the clubs explaining the concept... I know SAMC knows how RMMR works, they send many Mustangs up there every year. Finding one main benefactor for the event would be the primer? Rick is that how they s=designate where all the funds go at the end? Is it all donated to one charity or do they split it among the clubs....
Rick Shopmier
12-19-11, 10:59 PM
I had been involved(co-chair and activites chair) with the Rocky Mountain Mustang Round-up (RMMR, started in 1988) from 1990 to 1999, also was active with Vettes on the Rockies (VOTR, started in 1973) in the same capacity from 1977 to 2000. These are the largest continual car events in Colorado, 500+ cars each annually. So I know a little about this stuff. Looking at RMMR, the 5 and sometimes 6 clubs co-hosted event, it was agreed by all parties the it only existed with all clubs having equal ownership. Each club has a show representative (usually elected by the club as a board position), also at the beginning each club provided seed money for starting the event to cover costs, RMMR has its own banking. Financially successful shows (most all were) held the funds within the RMMR account, and if funds were taken out for what ever reason it was at the agreement of all partys/clubs. This answers Daves question. All Arizona Mustang clubs should be contacted to see if any want to participate, if yes then each should designate a person to come to a first meeting to establish what the event should be, then that person returns to their respective club and if the club agrees to be a part it, then that club should provide their share of the seed money, an agreement of all participating clubs has to created and the committee start planning the event and stick to the plan. First determine a potential location, contact the Chamber of Commerce (this is a must and saves a lot of work, they will determine the mood of the community, businesses and locations for the event activities, they become a partner and provide huge support). It is important that all parties come with an open mind, not the "we always do it this way" attitude. First step, have a first meeting with 1 member from each club attending to do a feasability study. Next go back to the club and see if they want in, those who come back will be the players. This all has the potential of being the largest single mark show in Arizona. This is a lot of food for thought. From this point on the ball is in your court and I will gladly sign on as an advisor.
Jacostang
12-20-11, 07:25 PM
Thanks Rick, the principles would be:
Old Pueblo, Southern Arizona, Copperstate, Wild West, Arizona Mustang and maybe Mohave.. Not sure how Mohave is doing, have not heard from them lately....
Location, Location Location...Events...
I'm sure a town like Prescott would be interested, since the RMMR brings in Milllions of $$$$ to Steamboat.. Just dont expect a Steamboat turnout the first year... But if done right, the word gets out and we could have a great new event like Route 66 in Flagstaff.. The first year they only had 100 cars....
Name??? I like "Arizona Mustang Fest" Or maybe "Arizona Pony Express" Just throwin stuff out there.....Or my old Show
Arizona Mustang Monsoon Madness depending on the date of the show....
Rick Shopmier
12-20-11, 09:28 PM
This all has to be done in steps, some small but significant. Contact all clubs and see who responds. Get each to have a representative, meet some where neutral, have a little beer(helps me get thinking) then map out what the show is about, take it back to the clubs, see who wants in. With the players in place, set the rules, get the ideas going (like name, location, date and activities) then plan for the event. Yes, the Chambers of Commerce are aware of the income roll over impact on a community and they will get the businesses behind it, they know the number of units for lodging and the lay of the land, make them a partner (they are a condut to the community and don't charge for their services). The name should have significance and project something big (if you want it to grow). Remember that RMMR and VOTR play on the Rocky Mountains, something Colorado is noted for and make sure that the name is not someone elses property. All car events start small and grow if given the opportunity, what's scary is when it gets too big, the dream right? Remember the clubs will be the financial and human resourses, they will have ideas. It may be a thought for the fisrt year event focus on getting all the clubs the participate to set the ground work, then go public. That is how RMMR and VOTR started. Maybe it is time to start a new thread, lets give this thing some legs. One final thing, I know that Wildwest will have a leadership change the first on January, don't know with AZMCC. Any one up for a cold beer after the first of the year?
One thing, don't use the "FEST" thing, sounds hippy and the VW guys like to use it, just my thought.
78KingCobra
12-21-11, 08:25 PM
This sound pretty cool. David and I spoke about this last week. What month were you thinking of-June,July ? Copperstate Mustang Club has a Board meeting on Jan 4th, so I'll bring this topic up for discussion. So let's all put the guns and knives away and have all the clubs work together. After all, we all have one thing in common-MUSTANGS!
Jacostang
12-21-11, 08:37 PM
Nice to see you here Jeff!!! So Rick, we cant use Fest, to hippie-ish??? LOL
05mustangman
12-21-11, 09:59 PM
How about "Mustangs in the Mountains"
Looking on Google earth you could see there are quite a few large parking lots that could host autocross if possible. And a poker run through Jerome and surronding areas could be a popular event.
Mystic544
12-21-11, 10:16 PM
Nice...sounds like you all have some big ideas in the works ;) I like what I am hearing!!!
On a bit of a side step thought or suggestion...here is maybe another event that "should" be a bit easier to get set up:
Not sure if many of you heard this news, but we are actually going to have a NMCA event here: Speed World Dragway – Phoenix, AZ – Sept. 28-30, 2012 These events always have a local "sponsor club" to help with the car show and event activities - could be a great opportunity???
I have been involved in the NMRA/NMCA and World Ford Challenge events for years back in the midwest - they are an awesome display of racing, car show and gear head focused event! Anyway, here is a link to the information and let me know how I can help
http://www.nmcadigital.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14653
Santa Ana and Santa Rosa, CA – November 22, 2011 - Flowmaster, Inc., the exhaust technology company, and ProMedia Events are pleased to announce that Flowmaster will be the series sponsor of the all-new NMCA WEST Street Car Series through the 2013 season. NMCA West will debut in 2012 as a 4-event championship series catering to the growing west coast drag racing scene.
Auto Club Dragway – Fontana, CA - Apr. 20-22, 2012
Famoso Dragway – Bakersfield, CA – June 22-24, 2012
Speed World Dragway – Phoenix, AZ – Sept. 28-30, 2012
Auto Club Dragway – Fontana, CA – Oct. 19-21, 2012
Stay tuned for a complete list of NMCA West classes and rules, along with special announcements guaranteed to make the 2012 season extra special.
“The west coast drag racing and muscle car scene has been asking the NMCA to produce high-quality motorsport events for years,” said Charlie Harmon, president of ProMedia Events. “Flowmaster’s partnership with NMCA WEST, along with major support from our core sponsorship base, will contribute to great racing classes and a world class contingency program. Combine great competition with the media
exposure NMCA attracts and you will see west coast drag racing take off and go to the next level.”
"Flowmaster is excited to become the title sponsor of the NMCA WEST Street Car series for the next two years,” stated Nate Shelton,
chief marketing officer of B&M Racing & Performance that includes Flowmaster, Inc. “The NMCA WEST Street Car Series sponsorship just seemed like a natural for our brands to further enhance our connection with racers, both those who know Flowmaster and those who need to learn about what we offer. We view racing as one of the best ways to engage the racers at the track to find out how to further improve Flowmaster exhaust products to control sound with no loss of engine power or torque. We have always supported those customers who have us for so many years by loyal purchase of our products. This racing series just gives us one more opportunity to do so.”
Rick Shopmier
12-24-11, 11:23 AM
My take is fest is short for festival, so that means a Mustang Festival. Then we could have clowns, and balloons and maybe some dancing. I just don't the fest thing working but then again let the reps work that out when the time comes.
Hopefully things will change. Copperstate used to be fun then it got stale. Jeff and Don are great guys count me in for any fun. Trying to unite the clubs for events and cruises is a awesome idea. I agree with Dave, its about the Mustang and the people who drive them not the CLUBS!!!
Glad to put away the knife, it was cutting holes in my seat. :Bucktooth:
HanksGT
12-28-11, 01:21 AM
I'm in for a multi-club show. The mayor of Prescott asked us about having a car show there. Rick has laid out some great ideas and with new management coming in the clubs Jan 1 we have a chance to try something new. I think it would either have to be a August show (September is Route 66 show) or wait until spring 2013. Lot's of time needed to move something like this along through multi-clubs and town boards.
We can always use our house for a neutral meeting place. Good parking, folks from all 3 clubs have attended meetings/movies/BBQ's in the past. Right off 101 and Cave Creek Road, plenty of parking.
Looking forward to making alot of events this year!!
78KingCobra
01-08-12, 10:15 PM
I presented this topic to the Copperstate Mustang Club board last week on January 4th 2012. I was given the "thumbs up"- They liked the idea of an all club show. So CMC is a go!
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