HPS Get Together at Firebird 10-29-2010

[BurnTire]

I am planning on going to Firebird on October 29th to clean out the pipes on the cobra:biglaugh:

I will bring my camcorder for anyone who wants videos.

Who else is coming?

[ASUSMC]

I may drag the new slow pile out. Who is ready for some 14 second action?!?!?!?!

[QuarterHorse]

Sounds like a good excuse to go drag racing. Never had the Pinto out there so it sounds a good excuse to go.

[BurnTire]

Time to get the new slicks ordered.

[trucker]

Damn I have to work ;(

[BurnTire]

Damn I have to work ;( You may have Drag Racing Fever that night. Highly contagious. :yes:

[IMSHAKN]

I might bring the bike out instead of the Mach, but I'll likely come out.

[SloSVO]

hmm.. if things work out.. I might have a mach one in my stable.. I'll take that.. maybe the buckeye clan can caravan out there..lol

[Karnick]

Sounds like a great oppurtunity to meet many of you. I am new to the area and the car scene out here. Count me in

[BurnTire]

Sounds like a great oppurtunity to meet many of you. I am new to the area and the car scene out here. Count me in

Good deal. The big car show is that weekend also.
http://www.copperstatemustangclub.com

[OUR P51]

I am putting this down on my calendar.
What is the cost involved?
My goal is to compare my time slips from SAAC 35 to time slips at Firebird.

[OUR P51]

What is required for convertibles?
I do not have a roll bar, yet, but found one online that I like and it fits my car.
It will be a few months before I begin to modify the car.
Will there be an opportunity to take a passenger for a few passes?
My reason for asking is my wife had a blast riding along at SAAC 35.
This was permitted slower than 14.00.
I get out of work at 5pm, what time are you planning on getting started?

[silvrsvt]

I'll go!

[BurnTire]

What is required for convertibles?
I do not have a roll bar, yet, but found one online that I like and it fits my car.
It will be a few months before I begin to modify the car.
Will there be an opportunity to take a passenger for a few passes?
My reason for asking is my wife had a blast riding along at SAAC 35.
This was permitted slower than 14.00.
I get out of work at 5pm, what time are you planning on getting started?

What does your car run in the 1/4 mile?

All convertibles drivers must have a Snell 2000
or better helmet.

Convert needs a roll bar at 13.49

Not sure about passengers in a convert. Slower than 14 can take passengers in a Coupe.

Gates open at 6PM

[OUR P51]

14.99 with my wife in the car was our best time.

Just me I think the best I did was 14.66, yes I know that is slow and I was disappointed. Although I think my best RT was a .26 but I have to see those time slips. My wife has yet to give up the time slips from Infineon...(she really did have a blast!) so I haven't had time to look them over since we got home.

However bear in mind a few things...I hadn't been on a drag strip ever before Infineon. And I haven't drag raced this car previously even on public roads.
I did some late night racing with a '67 Cougar that I custom painted back in the day, but that was on fairly deserted back roads, and on a newly opened highway...

Infineon was just for fun, and to see how I did at the tree and what the car would do.
It is after all bone stock and still on the original BFG rubber. Logic was that since I am going to have to buy new tires soon I may as well have some fun and burn off what was left. There is still plenty left for Firebird!

I had seen a lady run a white '07 GT/CS on the TV show "Pass Time" and she supposedly had a stock one and had never run on a drag strip before. She ran a 14.00 if memory serves correctly. On a different episode a guy ran a supposedly stock red GT at 13.00. Don't know if he had raced prior to.

So I figured I should be at least at 14.00, if not better. At Infineon there was some conversation about the track not being sticky on the starting end, me being "green", having flashbacks to age 17 again and overjoyed to be at Cobra/Shelby (and GT/CS) "'heaven" probably had more to do with it than anything. And I did the water burn outs to warm the tires. Some didn't do that. They went around the water area.

Also while staged the car tended to roll forward so I had to keep my big toe on the brake so not to red light. I considered a slight tug on the handbrake, but figured that was worse. Later talking to the Pro that set it up (he ran 11.66 the second fastest time) I learned it might have been better.

Also my car is stick and it seems that an automatic would be the way to go to shave time off shifting. My goal is to have an open track car (hence the roll bar) more than a drag car so I'll keep it stick. Besides I enjoy toe and heel. On stock tires I ran 35 psi and some have said that is about right for stock tires others have said around 15 psi.

Any thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated as I was figuring on about mid 13 seconds was where the car should be. Obviously that would be with me doing well driving it, but I have to start somewhere. After all the those backroads were 33 years ago. I have much to learn. LOL!

Helmet is SA 2005 so I'm good there. Being that I'm not at 13.49 (yet) I should be ok without the roll bar.
I'll leave from work downtown and should get there around 6.
Looking forward to having more fun!
Thanks for asking and setting this up!

[BurnTire]

Just looks for the Mustangs when you get there. We usually park in the same area if possible.
Tech inspection is usually to the left when you leave the payment booth.

[Aznake]

Good deal. The big car show is that weekend also.
http://www.copperstatemustangclub.com

Oh this sounds like a great time! Plus a great opportunity to meet many of you. I should be free to come out to both. Now, I have to figure out a way to get my lowering springs installed and get rid of the 4x4 look in time.

[fazm]

im in for some spectating

[fazm]

by the way i dont think passengers are allowed in verts at firebird

[IMSHAKN]

Passengers are allowed in convertibles at firebird anything slower than 14.0, but they must have an approved helmet.

I was kind of surprised when I saw that as they are tech nazis at fireturd.

[IMSHAKN]

Damn it, looks like a need a full set of leathers to run at Firebird. Damn, maybe I'll bring the mach and just not run on slicks.

[hammerdown]

Nice. Will Try to make it out! May be throwing a Halloween party that night tho. OTOH, I just ordered some new control arms (upper and lowers). Would be a good chance to see if it was money well spent!

-HD

[4Jenna]

I'm in!

[JetmechF16]

I'll probably come out there as well to watch. This is the track outside of Phoenix correct?

[BurnTire]

I'll probably come out there as well to watch. This is the track outside of Phoenix correct?
Firebird International Raceway
20,000 S. Maricopa Road
Gate 2
Chandler, Arizona 85226

South of Phoenix


http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&wrapid=tlif12862522744392&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=firebird+international+raceway&fb=1&gl=us&hq=firebird+international+raceway&hnear=Mesa,+AZ&cid=0,0,17437790890495613666&ei=86aqTN_yEJKosQP6p9XlAw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=2&ved=0CCgQnwIwAQ

[JetmechF16]

Awesome, thanks! I'm in Tucson for the next month, i'll try to make it out there.

[BurnTire]

FedEx came. New slicks and Harnesses.

[hammerdown]

FedEx came. New slicks and Harnesses.

HaHa!! Nice! I too had a package waiting on my doorstep yesterday. Looks like I'll be doing plenty of cussing and drinking this weekend installing new double adjustable upper and lower control arms and brackets.

[BurnTire]

Getting slicks mounted. Burntire time is getting close.

[silvrsvt]

man, its amazing how much better my car runs in this cooler weather! I cant wait till the 29th!

[SloSVO]

^^^ should get that solenoid fixed...hehe

[silvrsvt]

^^^ should get that solenoid fixed...hehe


when do you want to do it? we would have to throw the car on the dyno to make sure the kit is working!

[Bandit]

Anyone been to Firebird, or know how the track turned out after all the resurfacing repair they did this last summer...?

[IansBAJ]

I just got the OK from above! I can pop my cars drag racing cherry! Can't wait to see all the cool stangs on the 29th and run a 18 sec quarter in style! 350# guy+ fast car= slow quarter

[fazm]

Anyone been to Firebird, or know how the track turned out after all the resurfacing repair they did this last summer...?

car went 7.3x on a friday night test and tune lol

[SloSVO]

when do you want to do it? we would have to throw the car on the dyno to make sure the kit is working!

Whenever your ready bro. just get the solenoid... I only have powershot solenoids.. from what remember you got cheater size ones.....

[BurnTire]

Ok who else is coming?

[SloSVO]

for sure..

1.Burntire
2.IansBAJ
3.Silvrsvt
4.OUR P51
5.SloSVO... I got my new toy.. just need to square out somethings on it
6.4JENNA..the burntire slayer.. ohh did I say that out loud....:biglaugh:

[BurnTire]

1.Burntire
2.IansBAJ
3.Silvrsvt
4.OUR P51
5.SloSVO... I got my new toy.. just need to square out somethings on it
6.4JENNA..the burntire slayer.. ohh did I say that out loud....:biglaugh:
7.IMSHAKN

[BurnTire]

Ready to go
5059

[SloSVO]

^^^ what size are those??

[BurnTire]

28x10.5x15 stiff wall. Nice and sticky unlike the dried out ones I got a 10.15 on last year.

[fazm]

so 9.99? im sure ull get away with it, maybe not twice haha

[BurnTire]

so 9.99? im sure ull get away with it, maybe not twice haha
For sure when I get it going on E85. This will be the last trip to the track on race gas. E85 is coming soon.

[SloSVO]

hey burntire what did you do with your old slicks? are they that worn/dried/useless?

[IansBAJ]

Does anyone know there way around a Diablosport predator tuner? I have a JLT intake on the way and have a tuner but dont want to mess anything up. The directions on the Diablosport are not very user friendly. Its an 05gt btw.

[SloSVO]

I would think you'd just plug it in and follow the on screen instructions...I assume its preloaded with tunes that compensate for the JLT intake??

[IansBAJ]

I am waiting for the wires so I can do an update as of now it is not an option and I might need to get a custom tune.

[IansBAJ]

Ok I did a little digging and found out that if I download the newest revision there is a JLT option in there. False alarm! I got a buddy with an audi a4 turbo 1.8 that wants to race on the 29th. I kind of wonder if he will catch up to me????

[BurnTire]

hey burntire what did you do with your old slicks? are they that worn/dried/useless? Yea they are long gone.

[fazm]

Does anyone know there way around a Diablosport predator tuner? I have a JLT intake on the way and have a tuner but dont want to mess anything up. The directions on the Diablosport are not very user friendly. Its an 05gt btw.

swing by my shop and ill just do it for you real quick if you dont figure it out, and show ya, its pretty simple.

[IansBAJ]

I have been analyzing the crap out of the Diablosport website and I think I have a handle on it but I guess by next monday when the JLT shows up I will know thanks for the offer fazm I will let you know if I can't get it and Burntire sorry for stealing your thread I just wanna get my CAI going before the big day! Hope your tires hook up and cant wait to see you drag I think I have seen you there before.

[BurnTire]

Got my race gas. All ready to BurnTire

[Bandit]

Looks like I'll be there with a few of my friends from Superstition Muscle Car Club.
I'll try and look you guys up, or if you see me stop and say HI, I have a red 89 GT.
-Bill

[IansBAJ]

I got the JLT on with the Diablosport tune and waiting on my Steeda UDPs! I feel spoiled right now!

[stanglife0419]

I haven't been on here in a long ass time, and I've been looking for a day to take the new ride out to the track...

[BurnTire]

Ok Firebird has Changed the Night to Drift and Drag.

I am trying to get more info on the format.

Has anyone been to a Drift and Drag Night?

[OUR P51]

No but what I do know is my car does really long sideways drifts in a certain stadium parking lot....
must be the surfacing they put down...

A parking lot attendant got excited over my CS when I pulled in.
Since there were 2 attendants I told him to get in and put his seatbelt on, he'd need it.
He asked me to nail it when I got to the corner 20' away.
The kid was all smiles by the time I bought him back....heh heh

Just to compound his Mustang fever of course!

[BurnTire]

From the Firebird Track Director



Nothing changes as far as track prep or drag racing. The only thing that changes is the location of pitting. We will be pitted in the upper pits by the lake. yes the track will be prepped.

[IansBAJ]

Ricers............. ewwww!

[BurnTire]

They are there every Friday.

[4Jenna]

Looks like a trip to Sedona just came up, I won't be there fellas

Srry

[fazm]

Justins going to bring kenny's old cobra

[IansBAJ]

Well I don't know about you but I am excited! I can't wait to meet everyone!

[OUR P51]

For those of you that want to go around corners fast too,
check out http://www.proautosports.com/
today is last day for the discounts for Halloween weekend.

[BurnTire]

Roll Call. Who is coming for sure?

[fazm]

coming, not racing, leaving early for halloween party

[OUR P51]

It is still a go for me, coming after work.

[silvrsvt]

I'll be there, dont know if i'll be in the cobra or the S197.. bringing a friend to break in his new formula

[IansBAJ]

Im there man!

[trucker]

and I'm still stuck F'n workin damit

[IMSHAKN]

I will be out there...likely on crutches...hope I'll be good to drive. They have anything against drivers in a knee brace using crutches?

[billyboss]

I will be out there, finnaly cool enough out

[fazm]

I will be out there...likely on crutches...hope I'll be good to drive. They have anything against drivers in a knee brace using crutches?

i raced there in a brace before, and a one of those padded feet things

[IansBAJ]

What time is everyone getting there? I will need some wisdom from you guys I am a newb to drags. Watched it tons but never done it. :hyper:

[fazm]

street tires? take off like you are from a red light

[05mustangman]

and I'm still stuck F'n workin damit

:sad-smiley-047: :biglaugh:

[Karnick]

What time is everyone thinking of going...

[OUR P51]

It is my understanding that gates open at 6, and we are to look for the Mustangs.

[IansBAJ]

ummmm do I need a helmet? I think my car will run less than 13.99 I'm not positive but pretty dern sure.

[OUR P51]

Some info on Firebirds Street Drags rules & regs here.
http://www.firebirdraceway.com/web/streetdrags.html

[IansBAJ]

do you need a face shield I found one on craigslist but there is not a flip down part just the helmet.

[Wharf Rat]

Me and Bill (Billyboss) will be there. I wanna do a couple baseline runs stock before the modding begins.

[OUR P51]

Call Firebird to be sure...and talk to one of there Tech people if you can.
What I do know is that when I went to ProAutosports to see what they do, I bought an open face helmet from them so I could talk with the instructors more freely.
I don't think it has a face shield. If it does it is very small.
At Infineon I bought a fire resistant helmet sock to more or less bring it up to their safety standards, which was SA 2005.
This helmet/sock combo now belongs to my wife.
We bought me a new full face/shield SA 2005 that they had on sale out there.
So it was a good trade! LOL!

I would recommend an SA 2005 rating on the back of the helmet outside, and an SA 2005 label on the inside.
If you have those two you should be able to get past any helmet tech issues anywhere.
SA 2000 safety ratings are now 10 years old, I believe for 2011 they will be outdated...hence SA 2005 ratings.
However I'm also new to the helmet scene and there are probably much more knowledgeable folks on this site that can weigh in with more info.
There may also be a safety equipment vendor at the track, and they may have helmets there.
They will certainly be able to advise you on proper fitting...some vendors at tracks might be able to rent you a used one...

One thought to keep in mind is how much is your brain worth?
And you want to make sure that it fits you well.
If you do go the Craig's List route you want to be sure the pads that the helmet came with are included.
That open face one I have has 2 sets. You want the helmet to be good snug on your head and cheeks but not too tight that you are literally chewing on your cheeks.
Changing the pads to thicker or thinner can help.
Hope this is helpful.

[OUR P51]

Fazm thanks I will try that.

IansBAJ I've been told that a stock 4.6 should/could be in the mid 13s, if you get the tires to hook up.

[IansBAJ]

Thanks for all the help! I know thats why I was worried cause stock is mid 13s and I have CAI and tune and 4.10s! I gotta look into a helmet quick!

[OUR P51]

I do know that if you go down to Firebird and ask for ProAutosports at the gate they'll point you in the right direction.

See Vicki, she is a very well known nationally Safety vendor.

She can help you with a helmet, and may have a used one you can buy.

That way it'll fit and since you are in a pinch timewise, might be the easiest solution.

[IansBAJ]

Thanks so much I am working on getting one now but if it comes down to it thats what I will defiantely do.

[OUR P51]

You are welcome, heads up though I know she is there during the afternoon and early evening, but I don't know how late.....

[BurnTire]

First run 10.37

[BurnTire]

10.34 run two.

[fazm]

run 2's launch looked a lot better, did u run anymore after that?

[Wharf Rat]

10.34 run two.

I saw that one. That was a f'n sweet pass!

[BurnTire]

run 2's launch looked a lot better, did u run anymore after that?

4 runs total

10.37
10.34
10.34
10.28

[IansBAJ]

14.0 was my best but I had a blast it was nice to meet you guys!

[IMSHAKN]

How was it out there with the drift and drag format? Were the pits in the normal area? I wish I could have made it out, but my knee wasn't up for coming out.

[BurnTire]

How was it out there with the drift and drag format? Were the pits in the normal area? I wish I could have made it out, but my knee wasn't up for coming out.

Pitting was up top. Lots of Drifters, but not many drag racers. Track was well prepped with very little wait time.

[IMSHAKN]

Pitting was up top. Lots of Drifters, but not many drag racers. Track was well prepped with very little wait time.

Damn, I was afraid that there would be long waits and a long walk in the pit area. I could have given up a little sleep before the academy for some track time

[OUR P51]

That was a fun evening, enjoyed meeting those of you I got to speak with.
Burntire how is it running on corn?
Wharfrat what did that 5.0 run?

[BurnTire]

Corn Rules

[IansBAJ]

I think it ran like high twelves or low thirteens as I remember.

[silvrsvt]

Corn Rules


I second that