Republicans

[u1arunit]

http://www.thefrown.com/frowners/becomerepublican.swf :2thumbs:

[HIKER]

Just the spelling alone says it all.....:z7shysterical:

[Jacostang]

Yes lets get a Democrat elected and raise our taxes again, let all the illegals have social security benefits, and everyone can get blown in the white house. If my Dad was still alive he would vomit as to what the Democrats have become!

[Viper_ed]

and everyone can get blown in the white house.

:2thumbs:

[HIKER]

I hope no one believe's that the way this country is running now is normal...

:z7shysterical:

[BurnTire]

I hope no one believe's that the way this country is running now is normal...

:z7shysterical:

abnormal

[Jacostang]

What is "Normal" Lowest un-employment rate, lowest interest rates since Carter! I don't know how people afforded to buy a house when the interst rate was 20%!!!

[HIKER]

Well... I've never seen 20% loan interest unless it it was hard cash and that the buyers problem, not the govt. I've seen 12-16% years ago, but back then people made better money too. I even bought my first house at 12%....ouch.

As for the unemployement records being low, everyone knows that these stats are generated from current people on unemployement assistance and those that fall off after a year are no longer counted. This stat has never held any weight other then sounding good at voting times.

Next.....

[BurnTire]

I like the fact that I am making 30% less than I was in 2001. I like the fact that Bush is not pro labor. I like the fact that health care cost are getting higher. I like the fact my pension has been stolen. The way things are going there will be no social security when I am 65.
Lets amend the constitution to allow Bush to serve 4 more years. He is doing such a good job.

[HIKER]

I like the fact that I am making 30% less than I was in 2001. I like the fact that Bush is not pro labor. I like the fact that health care cost are getting higher. I like the fact my pension has been stolen. The way things are going there will be no social security when I am 65.
Lets amend the constitution to allow Bush to serve 4 more years. He is doing such a good job.


Yeah....but unemployement is down......:z7shysterical:

...as long as a new Walmart keeps opening up every week and people make $7hr, it will keep unemployement down and people happy. :yes:

[BurnTire]

I have to think back to Micro and Macro Econ that I dumped from my Brain.

There are several types of unemployment. So to make a statement that unemployment is down serves no purpose without a more detailed look into the real employment forces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployment_types

[50 BMG]

I like the fact that I am making 30% less than I was in 2001.

Bin Laden/Corporate


I like the fact that Bush is not pro labor.

(his excuse) Bin Laden...


I like the fact that health care cost are getting higher.

Corporate


I like the fact my pension has been stolen.

Corporate


The way things are going there will be no social security when I am 65.

Gov't spending coupled with a poor socialist styled plan.


Lets amend the constitution to allow Bush to serve 4 more years. He is doing such a good job.

Constitution ain't the problem. The moral fiber of the country and the actions theirin are. This country has been screwed up since ~1950; definetly by the time Eisenhower left office.



Financially, the US isn't hard to fix.

Just like a recipe, follow in order.

Step 1: Get a F*cking handle on government spending. Like pronto...taxes and debt don't even matter.

Step 2: Stop taxing people on their income (one of the stupidest ideas in history) + annually taxing them on what they should (but never do) rightly own outright. Start taxing people only upon what they spend.

[50 BMG]

...as long as a new Walmart keeps opening up every week and people make $7hr, it will keep unemployement down and people happy. :yes:

Fine by me. In the last 15 years WM has kept US inflation down by 1%

[50 BMG]

What is "Normal" Lowest un-employment rate, lowest interest rates since Carter!

Un-employment rates are so 25 years ago. This country will do nothing but continue to lose jobs to other nations because we are currently economically efficient in speciality sectors only.

The anomaly of course is farming, as the US has a big share of the prime farming land in the world. Too bad the governemnt has to subsidize it :z7shysterical: ...got efficiency?


I don't know how people afforded to buy a house when the interst rate was 20%!!!

So if the interest rate was 20%, imagine the inflation rate...

How did people afford to live PERIOD? Why even save money?

[Jacostang]

I like the fact that I am making 30% less than I was in 2001. I like the fact that Bush is not pro labor. I like the fact that health care cost are getting higher. I like the fact my pension has been stolen. The way things are going there will be no social security when I am 65.
Lets amend the constitution to allow Bush to serve 4 more years. He is doing such a good job.


Well I can say that I am a Union Officer and I am making more than I was in 2001, alot more about 26.5% and the fact that illegal imigrants get social security benefits, free health care and many don't pay a dime into the system of SSI is one of the major problems that no one has deceided to do anything about!!! That is the number one reason health care is so expensive, I know Ive been in the EMS system for 23 years!!! Who pays when any of them get flown to level 1 Trauma Centers???? Let make socialized Health care just like Canada and pay $8 for a gallon of milk and $10 for a magazine!!!

I am not saying Bush is great but lets take a good look at the alternative. Oh My God

One question.... How do we compete in a market that pays American Auto workers $30 an hour and overseas they get $30 a day or week? And still keep costs down? I will never drive an import... Ever!! But why do so many people shop at Wally World or drive Kia's

[HIKER]

Socialized Health Care in Canada is funded though there GST. A 5% extra tax paid by everyone even vactioners, which I just paid. This tax is not paid on large purchases such as cars or homes.
So you do the math.. How much do you spend a month on health care and how much do you spend a month on everything else? I would bet most people pay more for health insurance by far.
Say you spend $300/mo for your family which in very common, my neighbor pays $650/mo herself(self employement ins sucks). That's $6000 a month you'd have to spend on livable necessites to break even. Unless you make $150K a year which I doubt anyone in this forum does, the GST would be a benefit.

I have no problem with taxes as long as the funds go where needed.

Everyone wants taxes cut cut cut... then they're the first to cry when there kids programs are cut at school, or public services are cut.

Some of the states with the highest taxes also have the highest paid state employees. Good teachers go where the money is. You can teach in AZ for $28K a year or go to NY and make $65K a year with full pension.

If this country was nothing but Walmarts on every corner, there would be nothing but mobile home parks in between....

Fine by me. In the last 15 years WM has kept US inflation down by 1%
At what cost? You pay for it through state taxes paid to foot the bills of Wallie Mart employees that are underinsured by the richest company in the world. Something's wrong with this picture.

[HIKER]

What is a Union Officer????

[HIKER]

You can't compare anyone til they've had experiance.

We can say all we want about Bush...his track record speaks for itself, but unless someone else has been in his shoes you can't dis them.

I highly doubt anyone can do worse........

[HIKER]

This thread might be better off locked before it gets really dirty in here...:biggrin:

[Jacostang]

What is a Union Officer????
I am a Vice President of IAFF Local here in Az and I do understand the facts about health care and you can't tell me that Canada has the same problem as we with illegals

[Jacostang]

Tom Clancey said it best... "politicians are liars and cheats and when they are not kissing babies, they're stealing their lolly pops"

I'm not posting anymore too pissed off

[Gene]

Tom Clancey said it best... "politicians are liars and cheats and when they are not kissing babies, they're stealing their lolly pops"

I'm not posting anymore too pissed off


Go EMS! I just passed my national registry test. Have any openings?

[Lucafu1]

Lets amend the constitution to allow Bush to serve 4 more years. He is doing such a good job.


please dont say that ever agian. someone might take your seriously and i would have to put a bullet between my eyes:ohno:

[BurnTire]

This thread might be better off locked before it gets really dirty in here...:biggrin:

It is fine just stay on the topic and don't attack each other.:thmbsup:

[BurnTire]

Well I can say that I am a Union Officer and I am making more than I was in 2001, alot more about 26.5%


I wish I could say that about the ALPA. (Airline Pilots Association)

[50 BMG]

Fine by me. In the last 15 years WM has kept US inflation down by 1%
At what cost? You pay for it through state taxes paid to foot the bills of Wallie Mart employees that are underinsured by the richest company in the world. Something's wrong with this picture.

My taxation without representation is wasted in many other "constructive" ways.

If WM employees can do better then they should...either privately supplement their insurance to desired levels or find a better job w/a bigger safety net.

[u1arunit]

Mental note to self. <Never post political stuff.>

[HIKER]

Tally Ho....

I'm off this ship...

:deadthread: